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re: Stormy Daniels Offers to Return Payment to End Deal for Her Silence

Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:39 pm to
It's amazing how your team doesn't realize how dumb yall look white knighting for a Porn Star is
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:44 pm to
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Further, the WSJ also reported that Cohen grumbled about that fact that he was never repaid.


He grumbled. GRUMBLED.

Dang, y'all got Trump by the short hairs now. He might as well resign this very evening.

Posted by NoHoTiger
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:53 pm to
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Cohen has been asking Trump to repay him for the hush money.

Cohen can ask him to do anything he wants. I still don't give a shite that Trump fricked a whore 3 years ago and a lawyer gave her $130K.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:56 pm to
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the WSJ also reported that Cohen grumbled about that fact that he was never repaid.


In all likelihood, he hasn’t been repaid because he acted on his own initiative without authorization.

Trump is a poon hound. Everybody knows it and he knows everybody knows it. Why would he approve an outlay like that just to hush up a skank?
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Plx1776
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:59 pm to
Basically. I'm assuming the lawyer was acting on his own.

Trump doesn't care if people know that, he, a billionaire playboy, liked to frick as many hot women as possible.

Everyone should have figured that out in the 80s and 90s.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:09 pm to
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Basically. I'm assuming the lawyer was acting on his own.


If I were Trump and I actually cared about shutting this schmuck up, I’d give him his $130k plus a little sugar on top to get him to say he acted on his own. It’s not like DJT couldn’t write that check in about 10 seconds out of his own personal funds.

But DJT, doesn’t give a frick. And why? Because there’s nothing to it, that’s why.
Posted by DawgRff
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:11 pm to
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Makes as much sense as trying to return crack.


Posted by Mephistopheles
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:40 pm to
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I jut read she has been offered the 1 million she would have to pay Trump for breaking silence. My guess is the agreement had more conditions in it.



Its 1m on breaking the contract plus unlimited damages. And the NDA isnt gonna stand up unless Cohen can get the declaratory judgment suit dismissed.
Posted by Mephistopheles
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:41 pm to
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Basically. I'm assuming the lawyer was acting on his own.



I find that idea unbelievable but it's Trump's only out here. Cohen is fricked.
Posted by Mephistopheles
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Cohen can ask him to do anything he wants. I still don't give a shite that Trump fricked a whore 3 years ago and a lawyer gave her $130K.



That he fricked her doesn't really matter, although apparently adultery is a class b misdemeanor in NY. but I'm wondering if that's not some unenforceable anachronism, but what does matter is either campaign funds were spent and if so where's the receipt or it was a campaign contribution and had to be declared within 24 hours (spoiler warning: it wasnt).

Cohen created an LLC just for this. The director's name is hidden but Daniels can subpoena it. If its Cohen, then he'll need to show where the LLC got it's money, and he has no excuse for not declaring the contributions.

ETA: my source for all this is Opening Arguments Podcast episode Stormy Daniels Is a Legal Genius.

It's not good for Trump. And I looked up Averatti, that dude is legit.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 3:50 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:49 pm to
Does CNN realize they're making Stormy millions of dollars on her attention whoreing?
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:52 pm to
She may now be the most famous adult actress in the world now. But I gotta feeling Jessica Drake is about to get bigger, given that she also took a payoff and has alleged unwanted contact from trump.

ETA: given her work history I'm gonna assume shes pretty well off.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:57 pm to
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my source for all this is Opening Arguments Podcast episode Stormy Daniels Is a Legal Genius.


Well, my source is knowing Ms. Clifford personally. And while you can call her a lot of things, genius (legal or otherwise) is certainly not among them.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 3:57 pm to
The left is throwing a boat load at her
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:01 pm to
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The left is throwing a boat load at her


At this point, they’re not even making a pretense. They want to do everything they can to overturn the results of a legal election.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:03 pm to
NO ONE CARES
Posted by Jorts R Us
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:04 pm to
This is still a nothing-burger.
Posted by Mephistopheles
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:09 pm to
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Well, my source is knowing Ms. Clifford personally. And while you can call her a lot of things, genius (legal or otherwise) is certainly not among them.



Have no idea if you're legit here or not but, if she's not the brightest crayon then surely it's even more impressive that shes a successful actor and director.

Anyway re: cohen

LINK

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Let’s start with this curious document entitled "Confidential Settlement Agreement and Mutual Release; Assignment of Copyright and Non-Disparagment (sic) Agreement.” Exhibits 1-2 in the lawsuit: Cohen created the shield company Essential Consultants LLC and adopted an anonymous identity to pay off Daniels. Indeed, the agreement protected “David Dennison” or “DD,” also known as Donald Trump. As for the other party, “PP,” she is “Peggy Peterson” aka Stormy Daniels, also known (legally) as Stephanie Clifford. The problem is that David Dennison aka DD aka Trump never signed the agreement. However, Cohen signing as EC LLC did execute the agreement.

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t is not clear whether Cohen honestly thought this incompetent and clumsy arrangement would work. If so, it falls in the same level of legal advice as telling a client, “If we keep our eyes shut, no one can see us.”
That does not mean that it will not be ruled binding on Daniels, who did accept $130,000 for the agreement. Daniels argues that Cohen himself nullified the agreement by speaking publicly, and that it was invalid due to Section 8.6, which states that the parties understand “this agreement, when signed by all parties, is a valid and binding agreement.”

Cohen reportedly complained that the delay in paying off Daniels was due to the fact that he could not reach Trump and later complained that Trump never reimbursed him. Those statements, if true, are hopelessly confused. If he needed to speak with Trump (and did not) his own admission could be used against him. Rule 1.4 of the New York Rules of Professional Conduct require conferral and communication with a client on such agreements.
Moreover, if he did not have Trump's consent, his representations to Daniels would appear false and potentially fraudulent. If he expected reimbursement, his statements to the Federal Election Commission and others are factually and legally questionable. Rule 4.1 states, “In the course of representing a client, a lawyer shall not knowingly make a false statement of fact or law to a third person.” Likewise, Rule 8.4(c) states that an attorney shall not “engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation.”




Speaking of not being the brightest crayon.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:18 pm to
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if she's not the brightest crayon then surely it's even more impressive that shes a successful actor and director.


Not really.

Fake tits and a willingness to frick don’t exactly require a high IQ.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18168 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 4:26 pm to
Reading between the lines... Trump gave stormy the best sex she has ever had.. and not being able to openly talk about it, is driving her crazy.

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