re: Stormy Daniels is on 60 minutes (post game discussion)

Thomas Jefferson had an affair with a slave and fathered 5 children with her


FDR mistress was with him at his bedside the day he died....



Eisenhower had an affair with a model from Great Britian


JFK...well you know the rest... White House workers, mobster wives, staff reporters, movie stars, etc


LBJ..just a dirty old man..had a bastard son out of wedlock



and then there was Bill Clinton....king of the jungle....blow jobs in the Oval Office

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Why would I like socialism when I'm a high earner that want to keep more of his own money.

A basic understanding of economics seems to be lacking from some here.

We are running very high deficits. Tax increases are coming. Just not for corps. They have their permanent decrease of 14% now that the rest of u

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Thank god you are on this message board to make a real difference. You seem to have all the answers. Go get em.

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Tiger n Miami AU83

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Fine. You just increased the federal deficit to increase shareholder value. Because as seen, corps sure as shite didn't lower the prices on goods and services as a result of the cuts.

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So tax cuts-this one or any for that matter-are designed to lower the cost of goods and services?

You know that Trump fantasizes about banging his daughter. He compares a boy star he just banged to his daughter, Says hed datw his daughter if she were not his daughter, brags about her body.

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Martini was correct. Now you are claiming that Monica made those stories news which doesn't make any sense because they were already big stories years before the Lewinsky scandal. Paula Jones for example was a giant story.

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I guess I’m speaking from my level of care. Just like this jones was nothing. Who cares. He didn’t break any laws. To me it wasn’t a story. Lying under oath about Monica is the only pertinent information.

But he was still an elected official for all of it. The difference we are seeing is the act of a private citizen.

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ignorant talking points like Obama doubled the debt.

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That’s not a talking point. That’s a verifiable fact

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I guess I’m speaking from my level of care. Just like this jones was nothing. Who cares. He didn’t break any laws.

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I don't care either. Trump fricking around on his wife is the least surprising thing I can think of. I don't know why anyone would give a shite. I was just pointing out that your argument was illogical.

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It’s a dumb point. Only 3 Presidents have had access to it. Since he’s the latest, I certainly hope he is.

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My entire point

I'm a fiscal conservative. I care about 1 thing above all else, keeping more of my money and getting back something for what I pay into social security (FYI I max out on social security holding every year at 130k or whatever it is in W2 earnings).

I'm trying to help you understand things a bit, but not gonna waste much more time on it. I've learned people don't like to learn or figure out when they are wrong.

I'll make one not simple point. Maybe you will think about it, learn about discretionary spending under Obama, Google the gang of six and develop some understanding of supply side economics and in particular the massive failure of the Bush tax cuts.

The point is this...

If one side wants to spend $100 and borrow $50 and the other wants to spend $100 and borrow $80 and both have to pay it back with interest, which one is more fiscally conservative. It's pretty simple and not a trick question. The money we borrow today will be paid back with compounded interest. That means taxes. I want less debt. That is what fiscal conservatism is about and one side wants to cut taxes and take on more debt faster while both essentially want to spend the same. The vast majority of the budget is mandatory spending neither side is touching. The republicans jack the shite out of military spending, the dems don't and both sides spend about the same on everything else (including social welfare). Spend as much or more and take in much less and borrow much more??

fricking right I oppose that. 100%.

Now if you want to educate yourself, go for it. I've given you some starting points. Maybe even understand when debt to GDP ratio becomes problematic and where we are at today. Learn about austerity, Greece, Spain, Italy, even the UK.

Happy hunting and hope you learn something.