re: Stolen History - Lifting the Veil of Deception (Doc Part 1 - Introduction)

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Do you know the history of iron/steel manufacturing?

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Oh yes.
I'm a bit of a McKinley buff. So I'm especially familiar with westPA/eastOhio development, pig iron, etc. which is of course where your Maramec folks originated.

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they were using charcoal, not coal, or coke

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They were out in the middle of nowhere. They found a spring near iron deposits, along with an ample timber supply, and went to work building the furnace. They used the best resources they had at hand. They mined with a pick and shovel as well. 16th century style? Maybe so. They also used wagons akin to those of the Egyptians, and knives similar to the Babylonians. They often lived, at least initially, in hovels not too dissimilar from the Druids. They built a rock and earth dam to raise the water level in the spring pool to provide water for the tail races as the Romans might have.

It's also so confusing.

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if you read the actual history book

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Which one. There are several.

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it's not that simple

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It actually is. At least it is assuming you're as familiar with frontier iron smelting as you intimate. In that regard though, your "16th century" charcoal vs coal quandary is bizarrely uninformed as to central Missouri in the early 19th century.

It is as uninformed as the OP making ludicrous claims that world's fairs did not occur prior to 1915. Real head scratchers.

Folks, just a re-cap of theoretical events and "Reset" elements beginning late 1700s (1776-ish?) / early 1800s -- as well as several near-simultaneous, dramatic event "markers" -- which includes a bold Timeline manipulation by tPTB.

*Shouldn't* the century of the 1800s been a century that was recorded and logged in great detail? Yet...it is *NOT*;

What we do see is several loosely running but connective narratives reported to have happened -- dependent largely on the presumption of total trust of its "Historians" (many lack any, some or strong available documentation and photographic evidence and testimony of the times.) Why is this the case?? The "modern" era supposedly began in the 1800s.

So again, these are some of the important events were recorded just in the early 1800s:

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* MANY American (as well as Canadian) towns & cities were befallen by raging "Great Fires" and its stone/masonry buildings blown up, in shambles in almost all cases.

(aside re: American Civil War -- at its conclusion just happened to be reason to demolish and leave in rubble the great older cities of Richmond, Atlanta and Charleston -- under the guise of "casualty of war")

* New Madrid Earthquake of 1812 - an under-reported, part of a widespread series of near-simultaneous cataclysmic events.(caused great flooding and "liquifaction" phenomena in the US and elsewhere (Mud Flood / buildings-buried facilitator?); New Madrid seems to be a more dramatically far-reaching & damaging than the general historical narrative reports (which may have starved great numbers of people in both the US and Europe)

* Mystery Eruption(s) 1808 -- which could possibly have contributed to the "Year Without a Summer" in both the US as well as in Europe

* Great Comet of 1811 -- OR, was this possibly an ongoing solar/plasma-charging cataclysmic facilitator / event?

* War of 1812 (US) -- which lacks substantiation & important detail (other than the singular event of the WH having been burnt down by England (possible distraction?)

* Napoleonic Wars @1812 -- used as historical/narrative "marker" for re-shuffling the card-deck of Empires and powers in France, Russia, Britain, and Europe (possible distraction/cover up of other things)

* The Year Without a Summer 1816 -- which in theory could have starved a great number of people

* Mud-flooded buildings
etc. (see New Madrid earthquake event)

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THIS is part of the RESET Theory for the "Veil of Deception" by tPTB by which its Narrative re-invents and shoe-horns in events & accomplishments and "History" of America and its buildings of universal renaissance-style architecture & infrastructure... that frankly and sensibly emerge all too rapidly to be remotely possible during this population and Timeline / Time-Frame...

Ergo, it MUST have existed already. I understand the opposition to such alt-theory to tNarrative, but the physical evidence & "testimony" IS THE ARCHITECTURE. (also consider the credibility of tPTB; should they be trusted -- whether then or now? Just sayin')

Furthermore -- this alt-theory flies in the face of THE historical Narrative; What actually happened during the 1800s was a massive post-catastrophe effort of rebuilding society anew. (Which entire cities and nation that required population in order to justify the logistics of, "WE BUILT IT" for later generations.

And once again, *here* is the Theory and blueprint of how tPTB and their "Historians" during the 1800s planned their narrative re-write that helped explained an already entire built-out continent:

Most important parts of the history rewriting:

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* Eliminate FREE atmospheric/aether energy spires, antenna (turned into "flag-poles") , "decorative" protuberances, domes, towers, tall "street lights" from buildings and infrastructure

* Create the narrative that most existing "olde-looking" Renaissance, Romanesque, Gothic, Medieval, Baroque, Castle-style, buildings & starforts were ALL only created within the Timeline confines of 1840-1910.

* Invent an older story for colonialism

* Create a large time-frame between the colonial "Witch Hunts" and the (under-reported, under-explained) confinement of swathes of the population (enemies of the brand new PTB) to Insane Asylums so people don't see that both are basically part of the same event (those who lost the war or opposed being forced to accept the new "History," new Overlords, and new Western Empire-Victors)

* Re-date photos, maps, and paintings (spread the story of a "Wild West" that needed to be "tamed"; The whole 1840s "settlement" of the West *and* "GOLD RUSH!" narrative)

* Invent Architects of the grand building [who Wikipedia/Narrative say designed ridiculously numerous buildings] etc.

* Invent [ridiculous] stories for how and why fires burnt down *thousands* of big beautiful olde-world brick & mortar buildings in hundreds of towns & cities across the US and Canada

(LIST OF FIRES will be posted -- it is shocking)

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Thought the theory was that they were gigantic trees

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I agree --You're right about "Mesas." They are "natural." They and their "grains" do seem to be the stumps of giant trees (cut down by the Giants/ Titans of the Bible?) That's one more mind-blower to consider.

Monument Valley's "rock formations" seem to be the washed-away or melted monumental castles/buildings.

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Yeah we know they tore it down...

You would think light wood panels and plaster they could just disassemble. Just chop it up. Reverse what you did building it. (Lol at the pile of wood; think the viewer "got" the point that it was all just "temporary plaster junk" to begin with?

Lol they try to pull it down with machinery and fail and get a leaning tower. They don't even know what they're doing. We gotta get this thing down somehow before anyone sees!

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Bravo! I concur with your response.

Unbelievable, ain't it?

Yes -- why not just neatly and respectfully dis-assemble this iconic Buffalo World's Fair building like its a model? (This building / tower was actually the focal point of its brochure)

But no. tPTB had to make a big vulgar spectacle of demolishing it like the vandals and phonies they were.

By hook, crook, fire, TNT, "earthquake" or "World's Fair" temp plaster and wood, these Inheritors and Robber Barons of America have been demo-ing as much evidence of an Inherited America as possible. All their fires can be cited as 'Exhibit "A". (As well as the rest of the nonsense -- like "temporary" World's Fairs, Indian "Mounds," and the official "Eraser" of "History": THE SMITHSONIAN.)

This thread will continue on presenting evidence that supports this thesis.

Good thread!!! Keep it up!!

I stated earlier, following the manufacture of materials, both raw, and finish yield weird things that don't add up. especially iron ore, iron, to steel (including rivots vs welding)

If pittsburg was going so well, supplying the country with iron, why did they have to get the iron from the middle of no where Mo.

Look up rail shortages during building trans cont railroad, too lots of very verifiable clues

I have a gutt feeling, there are 2 - 1900's and an inserted time span between them. The world wide expo's had one very specific purpose, reset the official time/dates

I was a researcher on the original corbin stolen history, and went thru the purge, which was done by feds. I jumped them up at 5am our time the day the site was being expunged. I watched as the twitter and social media was being removed and chased "persons" to official "gov't" addresses.

then a simple volumetric estimate of all the stone buildings built in 1850 WORLD WIDE the ammount of quarries, stone workers, stone transporting wagons, oxen, laborors, support structure (food lodging) etc becomes, well

unbelievably ludicrous

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I see an amazingly built-out New Orleans. I see Obelisks. I see many Romanesques building near the waterfront (especially in 1851, GONE by 1885.)

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It's the opposite of what you claim. First off the images are drawn images not photos. Second, both images are drawings from different angles of the city, and third, most of the buildings in the 1851 image are in the 1885 image.

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Test your hypothesis.

As I told a poster earlier in the thread, I got involved in some McKinley research several years ago. I relied on a number of contemporary accounts. I can assure you they do exist. Google books or the Library of Congress are a good start. There are a number of contemporary newspaper resources. Many of these are free.

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I appreciate your contribution and opinion on this thread -- though we support divergent opinions.

McKinley though fascinating -- is a whole different subject.

FWIW...I *have* "tested" my hypotheses with thousands of hours of research ad nauseam -- established, amplified and reinforced by those many who have also examined the "evidence" of both viewpoint and "testimony."

Though I regular peruse LOC sources (check out the two photos of New Orleans (1851/1885) just up-thread, Tigah -- they are directly from the Library of Congress -- good stuff is found there -- I whole heartedly agree.

But then again, WHO ARE those who've run the LOC? The Smithsonian? And every establishment / institutional / academic source of "History"?

IS it possible that they ALL share the same agenda? IS it possible that they would be lock-step in supporting that very same Timeline? Series of Events? (or sandbagging, censoring, eliminating documents that contradict the "Historical" Timeline & account?)

Heck -- whether at the Library of Congress OR Smithsonian, OR other sources for "historical" docs, photos and "confirmation" of/ for perosns, places or things, such evidence/docs simply don't exist.

In short, I'll simply repeat what's already been said without belaboring the point:

There has been Historical / narrative / event / achievement manipulations, inventions, and eradication of so much truth by tPTB that very little of it can be believed at face value. Moreover, research has proven outright LIES in far too many cases.

Documents and explanations (even at LOC and Smithsonian etal extremely light. Sources and "testimony" are produced -- but not nearly in sufficiently or thoroughly. (THIS is why all this stuff -- like 1851-1915 World's Fairs narratives are being challenged. STRONGLY. They don't make any sense.

FWIW, I love this photo you've provided of the "planning" committee for the Buffalo World's Fair; But again -- IMO this photo "proves" nothing.

Why can't it just be a photo op that's created in order to support the notion of a "newly created" buildings, grounds, and layout? ALL that same architectural buildings (ironically and *very* coincidentally) is so similar to what stood at the Paris Expos of 1878, 1889, *and* 1900.

(I'll eventually find them and post it.)

(re: New Orleans photos) It's the opposite of what you claim.

First off the images are drawn images not photos. Second, both images are drawings from different angles of the city, and third, most of the buildings in the 1851 image are in the 1885 image.

Youre right -- My bad. It is NOT "photos" but lithographs of sorts. BUT drawn as per sight of whomever was aboard the airship/blimps.

"Opposite"?? You're FOS.

The angles are very similar.

You didn't spend much time check out those photos.

MOREOVER, those lithographs that you just spent 3 seconds looking over are just for thread-display.

The Library of Congress is linked to the images THAT CAN BE ZOOMED ON (in much greater detail.)

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It is as uninformed as the OP making ludicrous claims that world's fairs did not occur prior to 1915. Real head scratchers.

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WHA>>>??

NEVER claimed this.

THAT my friend is a "ludicrous claim."