re: Stolen History - Lifting the Veil of Deception (Doc Part 1 - Introduction)

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I'll play devil's advocate. The claim, albeit fantastical, is that these structures were built with wood and stucco - hence how they were built so rapidly and conversely torn down just as quickly and with ease.

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In the case of the 1893 Fair, the architecture was so popular, the city explored actually rebuilding the "decorated sheds" as permanent structures. But in 1894 most of the remnants burned. A few structures like the Palace of Fine Arts remained. Let's address that one:

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By 1925 the plaster on brick facade was falling apart, and the building was abandoned.









The building was scheduled for demolition, but wealthy donors interceded and had it rebuilt over several years out of limestone. From 1933-40 it was reopened in stages as the Chicago Museum of Science.

all while in the middle of the worse economic disaster in history (to that point)

because the elites/rich said:
"hey, lets spend millions with no chance of return on investment, to pay skilled craftsmen to build this elaborate 700 acre complex, as was said, the size of magic kingdom, so a bunch of unemployed rabble can walk around and oooh and aahhh over the modern technology that non of them will afford or have until the 1920+, and in 6 months we destroy it all"

yup, that seems very normal, and believable

so, a structure made from cheap wood, burlap bags and plaster of paris survived structurally for 30 years thru 30 chicago winters, then we replace the wood/burlap/structure with cut stone.

Do you honestly think a plaster dome would survive 30 years of ice and snow on it?

why was it not torn down to start with everything else, and instead allowed to become an eyesore for 30 years?

and why would you not just build a new building? Renovations especially of that sort would cost way more than new construction, especially when you consider a foundation for a stone building would be considerably more robust than one to hold up sticks, burlap, and plaster.

seriously, does that make sense to anyone who has ever worked construction?

This was a major undertaking, why is the renovation not got tons of photos with parts of the building being replaced, new foundations, setting the dome, etc?

many people had cameras back then, but no one walked the park to take a pic in front of this major civic undertaking.

the building is almost exactly the same.

nope, not buying that.
(I've walked the grounds there, and the building is amazing)
nice pics, thanks for posting them

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What makes sense is you are neither a reader, nor intellectually curious enough to question your otherwise bizarre contentions.

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yup not a reader, I have over 1000 books, many of which are over 100 years old, because I sit and stare at them
and my intellectual curiosity was poor because I didn't accept the official narrative???

I think you are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing, seems a bit petty and childish in my opinion,

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You've not really exhibited resources to make the purchase.

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a veiled insult of self superiority, cute, and you are just a troll with no actual intellectual argument other than copy pasta

how did the plaster of paris, and hemp burlap survive 30 years? in winter in Chicago?

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why was it not torn down to start with everything else
No. "Everything else" burned down, as was delineated for you.
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all the rest burned, all around it, but one structure didn't catch fire, why? if it was all made with the same materials, (burlap and wood) it would have all caught fire as the whole complex burned, being as close as all the buildings were

and your reading comprehension is well, never mind, I will not wallow in the mud with you.

so, moving right along, lets look at the canals of Pheonix

canals

In 1867 a scheming ex-Confederate soldier named Jack Swilling responded with the Swilling Irrigation and Canal Company. Using Mexican labor, he retrenched many of the old Hohokam canals. Alfalfa for horses and grain for persons soon ?owed from the Salt River Valley to the forts. So responsive was the soil that miners and migrants, safe from attack, grabbed shovels and went what was soon called “canal crazy.”

so there was a massive civilization that abandoned the canals in 1400, but where did they go?

map of the canal system

the size of this was construct was massive, and the population similar.

extremely interesting

apparently they are still finding canals to this day
over 500 miles of it so far

what happened to this civilization?

Liberator,

We are truly living in The Truman Show.

The movie was mockery in plain sight as everyday, our scripted lives are just entertainment to those atop Mt. Olympus who think they are the sovereign ones. Their sweet ambrosia will swiftly turn bitter only to realize that it will be too late at that point to spit it back out. Little do they know...

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Why rely on anyone whose opinion you may or may not trust?

There is a 250 page original 1893 guide linked just above your post.

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Therein lies the conundrum.

If "TRUST" (and credibility) is the key element in discerning historical truth, let us ask the million-dollar question:

*Should* someting like the 1893 World's Fair narrative be trusted at face value?

Should the 250 page book-form 'Guide" (a Fair narrative explained basically by the same ilk of people who *also* ran the World's Fair, owned nearly all the major newspapers, publishers & media and "news" at the time *and* controlled pubic opinion across America -- as well as being the Elites who monopolized US politics) -- be *the* end-all for any further inquiry?

*Should* the credibility as the Official World's Fair "authority" on the Fair, buildings accounts and logistics by its Rand-McNally publishers /contributors NOT be questioned nor challenged?

QUESTION: Do you believe its possible that there are legit alt-info, alt-docs, alt-theories and alt-explanations that poke serious holes in the sudden entire worldwide "World's Fairs/Expos" purpose and reason?

OR...

Should we just lay down and take the word of "honor" of the 19th century Elites narrative? (just as we've done by unflinchingly believing all 20th and 21st century "Official Narrative"?)

FWIW -- I still appreciate your historical pictorial contribution and passion.

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Your intellectual curiosity is poor because you overlook or ignore or simply don't understand material presented to you, as is fully evidenced here.

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not evidenced, only opinionated
I understand it, (and read your stuff)

but, that still does not prove a single thing about my curiosity. you fail to want to question the official narrative, which indicates a decisive lack of said curiosity

You'll find this stuff. EVERYWHERE. JonLevi could do an episode on my hometown. I don't even want to say it because it's a little rural backwoods town in Alabama. But I found the Greco-Roman courthouses and government buildings that burned multiple times, records destroyed. I found the old "Creek Indian" settlement and a depression newsreel by the TVA where they built an artificial forest over it, that's still managed as a state forest today.

If you go back to settler accounts in Alabama territory pre 1820 they don't even talk about Creek or Indians, just "Spaniards."

All the old depictions (pre 1820) of Creeks and the other "civilized" tribes depict them as Caucasian-Mediterranean, highly educated, noble Christians. The modern depiction of the Asiatic savage didn't seem to exist until around the Civil War and really picked up afterwards.

Here's some Indians as depicted at the time. These same exact individuals are now depicted much more Asian, dark skinned and "wild"











It's endless. This kind of portrayal is absolutely typical of the time. Europe believed they were a lost tribe, and conversion was so easy it wasn't even considered conversion, just completion of the story.. They were already monotheistic and had a very similar origin story in their mythos. Pocahontas was practically worshipped and made royalty.

The dark skinned Savage was unveiled, amazingly, at the world's fair. Here's "Geronimo" which even mainstream historians have doubts was really Geronimo and admit may have been just an actor. You paid your ticket and went an observed the man on display, like an actor



I think Creeks = Greeks and Muscogee = Muscovy. Cherokee was probably Czechy or something like. America may have been like Russia historically, the cities very advanced but out in the hinterland you have many mixed ethnicities in nomadic tribes living less civilized. And we usurped the cities and said the savages were all they ever had. Or the savages are a complete fabrication from imported Asian slaves. Maybe a combination, they imported some and really played up that aspect.