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Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:17 am to LSURussian
quote:If he can stop paying private school tuition and send his kids to public schools he would likely come out ahead with doubled property taxes.
And posters like you make me hope the incorporation happens and you see your property taxes double within 3 years.......
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:21 am to Poodlebrain
quote:And when the kids graduate but he still has to pay the increased taxes?? Shame on you, Poodle.
If he can stop paying private school tuition and send his kids to public schools he would likely come out ahead with doubled property taxes.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:28 am to Poodlebrain
quote:
If he can stop paying private school tuition and send his kids to public schools he would likely come out ahead with doubled property taxes.
Property taxes are not going to double, and those saying that are just making up numbers.
Zachary voted for a property tax to build new schools and their overall property taxes did not double; nor did Central's.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:41 am to Poodlebrain
People actually think property taxes will double? 
The appeal of being an incorporated city is that you'll get more control over public services and citizens can vote for or against taxes to support public services as you see fit. Suburbs tend to support decent police protection and public schools that don't suck. If an incorporated St George wants to setup their own department and outfit them with military equipment, it's will be because the people who live there want it. If they want to eliminate multi family housing from their zoning language, they'll have the opportunity to do that. It will be up to the people who live there
The appeal of being an incorporated city is that you'll get more control over public services and citizens can vote for or against taxes to support public services as you see fit. Suburbs tend to support decent police protection and public schools that don't suck. If an incorporated St George wants to setup their own department and outfit them with military equipment, it's will be because the people who live there want it. If they want to eliminate multi family housing from their zoning language, they'll have the opportunity to do that. It will be up to the people who live there
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 8:58 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:44 am to LSURussian
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And when the kids graduate but he still has to pay the increased taxes?? Shame on you, Poodle.
Empty nester? Sell your house to a young couple who will pay a premium for the good schools and move somewhere more fun?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:46 am to member12
quote:
People actually think property taxes will double
Some believe if you say it often enough, it has to be true.
In reality they say it to scare people, that's all. Just like they said we'd see an 11% sales tax if SG incorporated.
These types have no shame, they'll make up just about anything to scare people.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:59 am to LSURussian
quote:How's that CATS tax working out for you?
still has to pay the increased taxes??
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:31 am to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:
If he can stop paying private school tuition and send his kids to public schools he would likely come out ahead with doubled property taxes.
How many people are really going to pull their kids from private schools? My guess, very few.
Will the new St. George Harvard elementary still be under state/federal guidelines?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:42 am to MrCoolBeans
quote:
How many people are really going to pull their kids from private schools? My guess, very few. Will the new St. George Harvard elementary still be under state/federal guidelines?
Which would be good in that the cost less for everyone else who chooses to use the public school system. There would be less of a need for new schools if there was NOT a rush, but instead a slow move to the new public school system.
But the idea would people would have a better choice than they have now. either a private school of their choice or a GOOD public school in their neighborhood and what is wrong with that?
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:45 am to MrCoolBeans
quote:I doubt you would see a huge increase immediately following the opening of the new school district, but parents would definitely start taking advantage of it once they saw improvements and saw they could trust the school board.
How many people are really going to pull their kids from private schools? My guess, very few.
My brother just got a nice pay raise because he private school. This decision would never have is sending his son to Central High rather than a entered his mind if Central was still apart of the EBRPSS. And my nephew is pretty happy about being able to attend high school with all of his friends that he grew up with rather than them being split up between Catholic High, St Michaels, and other private schools.
There's a damn good reason the Catholic school system is so opposed to this movement.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:27 am to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:
a GOOD public school
Are the St.George schools going to have curriculum that competes with the private schools?
Or is the curriculum level still going to be same that is still taught at every public school in the city/state?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:41 am to MrCoolBeans
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Are the St.George schools going to have curriculum that competes with the private schools?
Or is the curriculum level still going to be same that is still taught at every public school in the city/state?
IF a StG school system ever gets set up (and that really is a big if), it will teach the same basic stuff.
However, it will have whiter, more affluent kids (and parents). Since I am an anonymous poster on a message board I can say that it makes it a more attractive school system. They will perform better on tests and send more kids to college. It will be a better "performing" system but not necessarily a better "functioning" system.
An analogy: I could "coach" the New Orleans Saints against any high school team in the state and beat them even if you give that team Sean Payton as the coach.
Does that make me a better coach? Of course not, I had better players. That's the same thing with school systems. Central is not a better school system, they have better students. The same will be true for StG.
Now if you live in StG, I don't fault you for wanting that for your kids. But since that will mean a worse school system for EBR (since they will be taking away better students and parents) realize that your action will a negative impact on others.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:46 am to BigJim
So StGeorge public education will not be better, just whiter?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:47 am to BigJim
quote:This post is ridiculous.
IF a StG school system ever gets set up (and that really is a big if), it will teach the same basic stuff.
However, it will have whiter, more affluent kids (and parents). Since I am an anonymous poster on a message board I can say that it makes it a more attractive school system. They will perform better on tests and send more kids to college. It will be a better "performing" system but not necessarily a better "functioning" system.
An analogy: I could "coach" the New Orleans Saints against any high school team in the state and beat them even if you give that team Sean Payton as the coach.
Does that make me a better coach? Of course not, I had better players. That's the same thing with school systems. Central is not a better school system, they have better students. The same will be true for StG.
Now if you live in StG, I don't fault you for wanting that for your kids. But since that will mean a worse school system for EBR (since they will be taking away better students and parents) realize that your action will a negative impact on others.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:59 am to MrCoolBeans
quote:
So StGeorge public education will not be better, just whiter?
Why would it not be both?
But to really answer, you have to define "better." Better test scores? Yes. Less discipline problems? Yes.
Whiter, more affluent, suburban families generally (and this is certainly not true in every instance) have kids who are better students. That's for a lot of different reasons. These students then have better test scores, etc.
Those pretending/claiming that StG will magically have a better school system and it will have nothing to do with race/class are either fooling themselves or, more likely, being politically astute.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:01 am to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:
This post is ridiculous
So you really thing that Central has better teachers/administrators and that is why their scores went up after they started their own district?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:09 am to BigJim
BigJim is bringing the truth.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:19 am to BigJim
quote:
It will be a better "performing" system but not necessarily a better "functioning" system.
quote:Do you honestly believe that the Central School System is not a "better functioning system" than the EBRSS?
So you really thing that Central has better teachers/administrators and that is why their scores went up after they started their own district?
Do You honestly believe that it's only the students that are responsible for the improvements?
I believe it's a combination of everything. Better leadership, better administrators, and better schools are attracting better teachers which are attracting better students resulting in an overall "better functioning system".
There's no reason why SG can't follow what others have done IF they get their own ISD.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:28 am to sec13rowBBseat28
Central was immediately a better school district when they stopped bussing kids in from the ghetto. This was before central had a chance to build new schools or to implement policy changes.
The system is essentially the same, save for minor differences. You can almost tell how good any school district is by looking at the demographics.
The system is essentially the same, save for minor differences. You can almost tell how good any school district is by looking at the demographics.
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