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re: st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:49 pm to doubleb
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:49 pm to doubleb
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Because comparing budgets based soley (sic) on population is ridiculous because all cities provide a variable amount of services.
Police services are police services. Period.
That was your weakest reply ever. Want to edit it out before you embarrass yourself?
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:50 pm to LSURussian
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st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
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I mean, hopefully SG won't need a full-fledged police force.
The SG budget says there will be only 1 city policeman, the Chief of Police as required by state law. Then there will be $3 million given to the EBR Sheriff for "enhanced law enforcement services" for a total of $3.163 million for police. That compares to Baton Rouge's city police budget of $80.125 million for 2014.
SG has sheriff protection as I type. How will our services decline if we hire a chief and increase thevsheriff's funding?
It won't.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:52 pm to LSURussian
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How much? Where is it in the SG budget? Or are you confirming that the SG budget is woefully incomplete?
Do you see property taxes listed on the SG city budget?
Now for the rest of my post you ignored:
Please again explain to us how SG taxes will double from a school system you say EBRP won't approve, how 9+2-2=11, how Rainey is getting paid $100k, how SG organizers never filed paperwork, OR how BRPD and EBRPSO will no longer have mutual aid.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:55 pm to cssamerican
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st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
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You and Russian keep saying that, but to run the city of SG no extra taxes are necessary.
And the same thing applies to operating a new school district later on.
Now if new schools need to be built, a tax increase is possible but that is a capital outlay issue and not an operations issue.
Look around Baker school district is operating on the same millage as EBR, and they are broke. Central and Zachary have significantly higher millage rates. I know people assume EBR waste money, but they are actually fairly efficient when you look at the millage rates they operate on compared to other districts. Plus they have to provide busing service to parochial schools, and are required to fund charter schools with their money.
I just think people need to know there will be added cost to the current cost to have a separate city and school district. If that is okay with you, great. Just don't be naive and think it won't cost additional dollars.
Fair analysis and I believe if you dig into the reasons why Zachary and Central raised property taxes was to build and renovate their schools not to operate them.
SG could face the same issues. I acknowledge tat and stated as much. Of course the people in SG would have to vote for the taxes.
Zachary and Central did. They now have better neighborhood schools. Is it worth it? I think so, you may not.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:57 pm to doubleb
quote:Do you think the taxpayers of Baton Rouge will continue to allow city police to provide police services outside the city in SG once SG is a separate city? I don't. They don't provide police services in Baker, Zachary or Central now.
How will our services decline
So, yes, the police services in SG WILL decline.
We've been over these same points at least 10 times in these SG threads. You either don't remember the discussions or you're just willfully obtuse.
In either case, I'm done repeating the same things over and over for you and Spricket.
Let there be a vote and we will see what happens. I know I am right about the need for more taxes for SG. I'll be here to say I told you so if and when it happens.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:59 pm to LSURussian
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So, yes, the police services in SG WILL decline.
You typing the words "I think" before that statement don't make it magically true. We are well protected by EBRPSO and St.G Fire. That won't change.
What did just change is that you just showed us all you couldn't understand how EBRPSO is funded.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:00 pm to LSURussian
Nothing will change regarding police services in the St. George area.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:02 pm to LSURussian
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st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
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Because comparing budgets based soley (sic) on population is ridiculous because all cities provide a variable amount of services.
Police services are police services. Period.
That was your weakest reply ever. Want to edit it out before you embarrass yourself?
Using Russian logic we are better off not having a city and continuing a sheriff's patrol, than forming a city, helping the sheriff more, and continuing the sheriff patrol.
And I embarrassed myself?
You compare SG's budget to those of other cities who have large police, and fire depts. When you know the city of SG won't provide those services. You do the same with cities who have city parks, city water and sewer departments too.
Embarrassed, no I'm not. Amazed by the way you feign ignorance of important facts.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:02 pm to doubleb
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Zachary and Central did. They now have better neighborhood schools.
You are not this dense on other topics, so what gives here?
Zachary and Central stopped having black kids being bussed into their schools. Their demographics changed DRASTICALLY when they got a new school system.
This is not a factor with South Baton Rouge schools. Desegregation is OVER! Central and Zachary would now be returning to good, neighborhood schools even if they hadn't separated.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:03 pm to Sprocket46
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You typing the words "I think" before that statement don't make it magically true.
But I didn't type those words in that post. Are you drunk?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:05 pm to Kramer26
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Kramer26
st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
Nothing will change regarding police services in the St. George area.
Thank you, Russian can try and take an apple and make it an orange.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:06 pm to LSURussian
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Do you think the taxpayers of Baton Rouge will continue to allow city police to provide police services outside the city in SG once SG is a separate city? I don't.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:07 pm to Sprocket46
So I was right. I didn't type "I think" as you claimed I did. Again, are you drunk?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:07 pm to doubleb
Even Asgard knows Russian was wrong on the police budget.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:08 pm to LSURussian
You must be native Russian, because clearly you don't understand the English language. You don't even understand what you type.
I'm not going to entertain your diversions from the facts. You have no idea what you are talking about regarding SG police funding.
I'm not going to entertain your diversions from the facts. You have no idea what you are talking about regarding SG police funding.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:10 pm to Asgard Device
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st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
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Zachary and Central did. They now have better neighborhood schools.
You are not this dense on other topics, so what gives here?
Zachary and Central stopped having black kids being bussed into their schools. Their demographics changed DRASTICALLY when they got a new school system.
This is not a factor with South Baton Rouge schools. Desegregation is OVER! Central and Zachary would now be returning to good, neighborhood schools even if they hadn't separated.
Tell that to Central and Zachary folk. They voted for new taxes, not me. They obviously see a benefit for having good, neighborhood schools.
They also have to like having their own school board and not the one in BR running things. The one who has been recently implicated in corruption, lack of discipline, grade fixing, etc.
I see the two districts as a big success. I could see it helping SG too.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:12 pm to Sprocket46
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Sprocket46
st.george: we have enough signatures for election.
Even Asgard knows Russian was wrong on the police budget.
Russian has said he's never been wrong.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:17 pm to doubleb
Insert 42 of the famous Russian smilies here.....
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:22 pm to doubleb
Since we want to emulate Texas so badly.. Will the fictional SG school district share local property tax revenues with the state so that it can be redistributed to poorer districts, like EBR?
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:51 pm to Asgard Device
Share with EBR? The ones who say they are gonna sue us for exercising our legal right to incorporate. I think not.
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