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re: Startling Admissions from Chaffetz: Deep State in Charge

Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Translated - most people don't give a shite about weed
And yet here you are bringing it up in a thread about how Sessions is stonewalling over document production
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:09 pm to
He's like the retards on the rant who start a thread trolling a rival, then call the people who reply obsessed
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92304 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:20 pm to
He's brought up several good points.

How in the flying frick Koskinen still has a job is beyond me. Trump better not turn out to be a business-as-usual guy.

Is he scared of the blowback from firing these people or what?
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Trump better not turn out to be a business-as-usual guy.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16027 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:23 pm to
Rand Paul for AG
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12441 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

he scared of the blowback from firing these people or what?


Trump has to be aware that the establishment Republicans would not be too hesitant to impeach him.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69274 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:36 pm to
If all of that is true then Chaffetz is a damn coward. He can't fight it more out of office than he can in office.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6596 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:10 pm to
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I am sorry, doesn't Congress hold arresting powers? What good is power if you do not use it?


You dummie.

Can Chaffetz arrest the Commissioner of the IRS by himself?
No?
Well, what do you want him to do?

We all know that there is literally no difference in the Republicans or Democrats (if you can't see that, I'll point to the repeal of Obamacare as exhibit 1).

That is what the retiring Congressman is saying. That they are all part of the same team, with bureaucrats being the line.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:12 pm to
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We all know that there is literally no difference in the Republicans or Democrats (if you can't see that, I'll point to the repeal of Obamacare as exhibit 1).


Pow.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:15 pm to
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I am sorry, doesn't Congress hold arresting powers? What good is power if you do not use it?


LOL NO they do not. For God sakes, Eric Holder lied right to Congress's faces and everyone knew it , in fact one member called him out right to his face "Sir you just committed perjury" the response was "so what, I'm going back to work now" and he got up and left.

Clapper perjured himself, Chaeffitz filed a complaint, no response. James Comey dishonestly told Chaffitz that he would have to file a complaint to have Hillary investigated for perjury, he did, nothing was done.

Why? Because all Congress can do is ask the Justice Department to file charges. If they refuse, nothing can be done. Well, one thing can be done, Special Counsels.

Outside of that, nothing. Congress has ZERO arresting authority.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56638 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:22 pm to
I usually agree with you 100 percent. However, congress can arrest for contempt of congress. They haven't done it in 80 plus years. They have not given up the power, though.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9069 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:54 pm to
quote:


Can Chaffetz arrest the Commissioner of the IRS by himself?
No?
Well, what do you want him to do?


You obviously missed my point. But, allow me to expand...the Republicans should use the full force of Congress, and the sergeant at arms, to start arresting these folks obstructing justice.

They aren't using this power...why?
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9069 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:56 pm to
The sergeant at arms, one each for the House and Senate, do hold such power.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 10:28 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:05 pm to
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I mean, we have been in court, trying to pry those documents out of the Department of Justice and still to this day they will not give us those documents.”


How is this reality?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:13 pm to
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I usually agree with you 100 percent. However, congress can arrest for contempt of congress. They haven't done it in 80 plus years. They have not given up the power, though.


That is true, the Sergent at Arms CAN arrest anyone for violating House or Senate rules.

BUT, they can not compel prosecution.

So an arrest by them is fairly meaningless.

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38604 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:38 pm to
Hmmm...'the rest of the story'. I'll rethink Chaffetz; sounds like he's honest, and is heading back home to batten down the hatch.

WTF is Sessions waiting on!
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:39 pm to
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WTF is Sessions waiting on!


c bamareps thread
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38604 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:52 pm to
I saw that ML, and it went right over my head. I'm so used to being perplexed and raising hell that it's gone to a default bitch.

Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:17 pm to
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If all of that is true then Chaffetz is a damn coward. He can't fight it more out of office than he can in office.


Me thinks the man I once admired has plans of running for the number one position.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9069 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

That is true, the Sergent at Arms CAN arrest anyone for violating House or Senate rules.

BUT, they can not compel prosecution.

So an arrest by them is fairly meaningless.


So by not providing documents requested by Congress is not in contempt? Beat it....they have that authority.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 8:34 pm
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