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re: Startling Admissions from Chaffetz: Deep State in Charge
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:07 pm to gthog61
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:07 pm to gthog61
quote:And yet here you are bringing it up in a thread about how Sessions is stonewalling over document production
Translated - most people don't give a shite about weed
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:09 pm to Iosh
He's like the retards on the rant who start a thread trolling a rival, then call the people who reply obsessed
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:20 pm to WhiskeyPapa
He's brought up several good points.
How in the flying frick Koskinen still has a job is beyond me. Trump better not turn out to be a business-as-usual guy.
Is he scared of the blowback from firing these people or what?
How in the flying frick Koskinen still has a job is beyond me. Trump better not turn out to be a business-as-usual guy.
Is he scared of the blowback from firing these people or what?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:21 pm to idlewatcher
quote:
Trump better not turn out to be a business-as-usual guy.

Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:33 pm to idlewatcher
quote:
he scared of the blowback from firing these people or what?
Trump has to be aware that the establishment Republicans would not be too hesitant to impeach him.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:36 pm to WhiskeyPapa
If all of that is true then Chaffetz is a damn coward. He can't fight it more out of office than he can in office.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:10 pm to Junky
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I am sorry, doesn't Congress hold arresting powers? What good is power if you do not use it?
You dummie.
Can Chaffetz arrest the Commissioner of the IRS by himself?
No?
Well, what do you want him to do?
We all know that there is literally no difference in the Republicans or Democrats (if you can't see that, I'll point to the repeal of Obamacare as exhibit 1).
That is what the retiring Congressman is saying. That they are all part of the same team, with bureaucrats being the line.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:12 pm to BamaCoaster
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We all know that there is literally no difference in the Republicans or Democrats (if you can't see that, I'll point to the repeal of Obamacare as exhibit 1).
Pow.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:15 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
I am sorry, doesn't Congress hold arresting powers? What good is power if you do not use it?
LOL NO they do not. For God sakes, Eric Holder lied right to Congress's faces and everyone knew it , in fact one member called him out right to his face "Sir you just committed perjury" the response was "so what, I'm going back to work now" and he got up and left.
Clapper perjured himself, Chaeffitz filed a complaint, no response. James Comey dishonestly told Chaffitz that he would have to file a complaint to have Hillary investigated for perjury, he did, nothing was done.
Why? Because all Congress can do is ask the Justice Department to file charges. If they refuse, nothing can be done. Well, one thing can be done, Special Counsels.
Outside of that, nothing. Congress has ZERO arresting authority.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:22 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
I usually agree with you 100 percent. However, congress can arrest for contempt of congress. They haven't done it in 80 plus years. They have not given up the power, though.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:54 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
Can Chaffetz arrest the Commissioner of the IRS by himself?
No?
Well, what do you want him to do?
You obviously missed my point. But, allow me to expand...the Republicans should use the full force of Congress, and the sergeant at arms, to start arresting these folks obstructing justice.
They aren't using this power...why?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:56 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
The sergeant at arms, one each for the House and Senate, do hold such power.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:05 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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I mean, we have been in court, trying to pry those documents out of the Department of Justice and still to this day they will not give us those documents.”
How is this reality?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:13 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
I usually agree with you 100 percent. However, congress can arrest for contempt of congress. They haven't done it in 80 plus years. They have not given up the power, though.
That is true, the Sergent at Arms CAN arrest anyone for violating House or Senate rules.
BUT, they can not compel prosecution.
So an arrest by them is fairly meaningless.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:38 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Hmmm...'the rest of the story'. I'll rethink Chaffetz; sounds like he's honest, and is heading back home to batten down the hatch.
WTF is Sessions waiting on!
WTF is Sessions waiting on!
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:39 pm to RCDfan1950
quote:
WTF is Sessions waiting on!
c bamareps thread
Posted on 6/20/17 at 3:52 pm to MrLarson
I saw that ML, and it went right over my head. I'm so used to being perplexed and raising hell that it's gone to a default bitch.

Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:17 pm to kingbob
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If all of that is true then Chaffetz is a damn coward. He can't fight it more out of office than he can in office.
Me thinks the man I once admired has plans of running for the number one position.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:32 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
That is true, the Sergent at Arms CAN arrest anyone for violating House or Senate rules.
BUT, they can not compel prosecution.
So an arrest by them is fairly meaningless.
So by not providing documents requested by Congress is not in contempt? Beat it....they have that authority.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 8:34 pm
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