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re: Special Master in Trump Case Says he Doesn’t Want to see Records Marked Classified
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:44 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:44 pm to cajunangelle
So, the Special Master and Trump's attorneys just need to take the government's word that he committed a crime? What could possibly go wrong?
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:45 pm to BamaAtl
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Private citizen Donald J Trump has no power to declassify anything.
Dam Son
No pic needed.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:48 pm to loogaroo
If trump says it’s declassified does not mean it’s declassified, he is an idiot and you are delusional
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:52 pm to Auburn1968
None of this is hard to figure out when you understand the FBI is utterly corrupt.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:55 pm to HL
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trump says it’s declassified does not mean it’s declassified, he is an idiot
If Trump said as president “declassify this,” and hands it to his attorneys to declassify through the proper channels and it is completed it is declassified
We are not saying Trump waved his hand over a stack of files and pulled a Harry Potter spell out his arse. He’s a billionaire and has beaten every thing they’ve thrown at him, falsified, and every political hit-job by a compromised MSM. Call him an idiot if you want, but he’s far from it. Boorish, crude and stubborn sure.
The man bought and developed property during the days of the NY mob controlling everything including concrete getting poured
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:55 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
Yes. That’s the cornerstone of our justice system. If the government says it’s super serious, then you don’t have any rights.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 8:58 pm to cajunangelle
Our government should rarely classify any documents, and yet the "defenders of democracy" in this thread are essentially arguing for a more arduous and complex declassificafion process, all because Orange Man Bad. They are utter hypocrites.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:42 pm to boosiebadazz
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If Trump knows he declassified the documents then he knows the substance of the documents. Why doesn’t he just tell Trusty what they are (he has clearance) and then point Trusty to the order Trump gave while president to declassify them? That seems like a small task for such a Very Stable Genius.
You say this, but why would Trump be in a hurry to prove his innocence if he knows without a shadow of a doubt that he is. The ones that have no idea what cards Trump is holding is the corrupt DOJ. Trump is waiting on them to make their move, and then he will make his go show just how corrupt and dumb the pedo Joe administration is. The burden of proof lies at the feet of the DOJ. Trump is innocent until proven guilty.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:45 pm to HL
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If trump says it’s declassified does not mean it’s declassified, he is an idiot and you are delusional
Yeah, well perhaps you should pay better attention so you don't look like a delusional idiot dem.
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Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation
LAW & JUSTICE
Issued on: January 19, 2021
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
THE DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
SUBJECT: Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby direct the following:
Section 1. Declassification and Release. At my request, on December 30, 2020, the Department of Justice provided the White House with a binder of materials related to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation. Portions of the documents in the binder have remained classified and have not been released to the Congress or the public. I requested the documents so that a declassification review could be performed and so I could determine to what extent materials in the binder should be released in unclassified form.
I determined that the materials in that binder should be declassified to the maximum extent possible. In response, and as part of the iterative process of the declassification review, under a cover letter dated January 17, 2021, the Federal Bureau of Investigation noted its continuing objection to any further declassification of the materials in the binder and also, on the basis of a review that included Intelligence Community equities, identified the passages that it believed it was most crucial to keep from public disclosure. I have determined to accept the redactions proposed for continued classification by the FBI in that January 17 submission.
I hereby declassify the remaining materials in the binder. This is my final determination under the declassification review and I have directed the Attorney General to implement the redactions proposed in the FBI’s January 17 submission and return to the White House an appropriately redacted copy.
My decision to declassify materials within the binder is subject to the limits identified above and does not extend to materials that must be protected from disclosure pursuant to orders of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and does not require the disclosure of certain personally identifiable information or any other materials that must be protected from disclosure under applicable law. Accordingly, at my direction, the Attorney General has conducted an appropriate review to ensure that materials provided in the binder may be disclosed by the White House in accordance with applicable law.
Sec. 2. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
(c) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
(d) The Attorney General is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.
DONALD J. TRUMP
The White House
LINK
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:33 am to boosiebadazz
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If Trump knows he declassified the documents then he knows the substance of the documents. Why doesn’t he just tell Trusty what they are (he has clearance) and then point Trusty to the order Trump gave while president to declassify them? That seems like a small task for such a Very Stable Genius.
I’ll give you credit for at least usually arguing in good faith, but I think your TDS is showing on this one.
The idea that the President abdicates his power by delegating processes is dangerous (though an appropriate reflection of the current state of the leviathan). An order doesn’t need to exist for something to be declassified. Per DoN vs. Egan:
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The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U. S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.
If that’s what you, and the DoJ, are asserting then God help us all. Unelected bureaucrats should not be allowed to seize Constitutionally vested powers.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:38 am to cajunangelle
So nothing there. But FBI can leak bs , leak bs and leak more bs until elections.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:39 am to dkreller
NO shite!
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:16 am to cajunangelle
See no evil, hear no evil, do no evil…
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:20 am to memphisplaya
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We are not saying Trump waved his hand over a stack of files
and pulled a Harry Potter spell out his arse.
Are you sure? Because that sounds pretty similar to what Trump is saying
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:23 am to BlueHeeler
No the God-King does not make mistakes....although he is often the victim of others who committ egregious error.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:50 am to Tesla
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This is an evidence recovery and destruction mission.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:58 am to memphisplaya
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We are not saying Trump waved his hand over a stack of files and pulled a Harry Potter spell out his arse
reading some of the responses over the last few weeks I think this is exactly what some people are claiming.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 7:59 am
Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:00 am to redneck hippie
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reading some of the responses over the last few weeks I think this is exactly what some people are claiming.
No one has ever claimed that
Your tds is still raging 2yrs after the guy is gone
Could you imagine being that crazy
Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:41 am to cajunangelle
I thought this special master was a former FISA Court Judge……if so then he has clearance and I submit he has a responsibility to need to know? Or am I wrong about this?
Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:45 am to BamaAtl
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And Kash Patel or Trump claiming this after the FBI started investigating them isn't evidence of this. Find something contemporaneous.
That darn pesky EO right as he was leaving office sure gets in the way of this narrative……
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