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Spain operated for a whole day on renewable only power this week
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:12 am
This was the second paragraph of the daily mail coverage of the power outage.
Spinning reserve has been a known issue for the past 150 years. Not rocket science. Not an lgbtqrwt made up issue. Laws of nature hang around foreverer
Spinning reserve has been a known issue for the past 150 years. Not rocket science. Not an lgbtqrwt made up issue. Laws of nature hang around foreverer
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:23 am to theballguy
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I don't what that means.
it means FAFO
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:33 am to theballguy
Plainly means that you and 99% of the adult population are not qualified to design renewable power circuits. Quit voting for stuff you do not understand.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:34 am to Trevaylin
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Quit voting for stuff you do not understand.
I don't know what this means.
I don't live in Spain. I don't vote for Spanish stuff.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:04 pm to theballguy
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I don't what that means.
Most people don't. But yet, many of them vote to support 'green' initiatives, and don't understand the consequences.
'Spinning reserve' - pretty sure (I'm not cheating and looking it up, just going from some basic knowledge I have of power generation) is refers to actual steam (fossil and/or nukes) or hydro turbine power generators. They spin, and are massive, heavy machines, and when suddenly loaded, their inertia carries them through. Loads on the power grid can change very fast, and that inertia helps stabilize the grid. Exactly like a flywheel in a car.
Solar and wind don't have any 'inertia', nothing 'spins'. They need help (like big batteries), or from fossil/nuke/hydro turbines.
I don't think we have a root cause for the Spain outage yet, and renewables may or may not have played a part. But it isn't all rainbows and unicorns when solar/wind make up 30% of the grid power. You need those other sources, and it will be a problem w/o them.
edit: Just to prove I wasn't cheating, I went and looked it up, and I was off a bit. It refers more to having all those 'spinning' turbines on reserve, ready to fill in for renewables. My take was more on short-term inertia, but still correct in terms of providing stability to the grid. Intermittent renewables need help.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 9:08 pm
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