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re: Sounds like Trump is going to defund Planned Parenthood today
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:35 am to TJGator1215
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:35 am to TJGator1215
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Good. I hope he throws all of them in prison for helping kill babies
Coat?
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:37 am to ShortyRob
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Every single headline on the subject when I googled framed it as "curbs on abortion".
I mean, ya know. Just sayin.
Oh. And if it isn't going to affect abortion, then liberals shouldn't give two fricks about this decision.
Yet, interestingly, they do.
Maybe they care about other services like contraception, STI testing, and cancer screening?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:38 am to Powerman
quote:None of those are unique to PP. So please don't try and jump on that lame assed liberal red herring
Maybe they care about other services like contraception, STI testing, and cancer screening?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:39 am to Powerman
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According to planned parenthood 3% of their operations are for abortions (I'm not sure if that translates to 3% of their budget or some other metric)
I haven't really seen anything to dispute this other than a bunch of conservatives flailing all over the place
So the company who is on video attempting to sell aborted fetuses and then lied about it should be trusted when they claim 3%?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:40 am to bmy
quote:I just want them to have the chance to grow up. Let them vote however they want.
What % of aborted fetuses do you think would grow up to be democrats?
Hopefully by then, the nation is woke... and they can choose based on their beliefs instead of just voting based on their age/sex/race/income bucket.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:40 am to ShortyRob
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Every single headline on the subject when I googled framed it as "curbs on abortion".
Because that's the narrative from the Trump administration. I haven't seen any critics of the move cite the curbs on abortion as their primary concern.
They give a shite about the decision because it cuts off funding for birth control and family planning services to low income women, and it's directly aimed at PP which provides around 41% of those services to low income women. Even their clinics that don't provide abortions will lose their Title X funding.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:41 am to ShortyRob
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None of those are unique to PP. So please don't try and jump on that lame assed liberal red herring
They're not unique to PP but they do in fact provide those services
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:45 am to The Spleen
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Because that's the narrative from the Trump administration. I haven't seen any critics of the move cite the curbs on abortion as their primary concern.
Shorty isn't really interested in reality. He's interested in building up some stupid straw man so he can make himself feel smart.
Have you ever seen that dude admit he is wrong on anything?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:47 am to Powerman
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Have you ever admit that you are wrong on anything?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:47 am to Powerman
quote:Meh.
They're not unique to PP but they do in fact provide those services
You know as well as I do that if Trump or conservatives announced tomorrow, "we are talking all govt funding away from PP and redirecting it to other providers of non-abortion services so that they may help low income women"...........the left would STILL shite pointed stones.
So, you know it's a red herring.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:50 am to anc
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Sounds like Trump is
The 2nd coming of the CHRIST!
Save the babies! We need more 2nd class citizens!! Of course, I'm speaking from a capitalistic approach.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:51 am to Powerman
quote:Dude. I just googled this phrase.
Shorty isn't really interested in reality.
quote:
trump planned parenthood funding
My top Google hits are
NYT - "Trump admin to tie health facilities funding to abortion restrictions"
CNN - Trump Admin to bar abortions at facilities receiving family funds
NBC - Trump targets planned parenthood - family planning services with new abortion rule.
So yeah. Go ahead. Try and tell me that they aren't playing up the ABORTION aspect.
I'm the one not in "reality"
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:53 am to ShortyRob
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Try and tell me that they aren't playing up the ABORTION aspect.
Who is "they" you're referring to? Again, it's the Trump administration that is bringing up the abortion aspect because they know it scores points with the pro-life crowd. Critics of it are citing the Title X services that many women will lose access to. There aren't enough other clinics out there right now to pick up the slack, so save the argument they can just go somewhere else.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:56 am to The Spleen
quote:There aren't a bunch of places that provide a service that a competitor is subsidized by the govt to perform?
There aren't enough other clinics out there right now to pick up the slack,
The frick you say!
I presume this means that if Trump simply redirects those funds to non abortion providers to provide the exact same non-abortion services, you and PP will be perfectly happy and cheer the move?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:08 am to Powerman
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They're not unique to PP but they do in fact provide those services
PP's main business is abortion. Nothing else they do holds any significance in the public discourse. Cancer screening, STDs, contraception are all essentially free or virtually no cost at practically any provider you can name, PCPs, Urgent Care, free clinics, etc.
PP is synonymous with abortion, Powerman. You know it. I know it. The American people know it. Just embrace it and we can have an honest debate, rather than this misdirection crap - you're better than that.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:10 am to ShortyRob
I don't care who provides the service. When one particular organization is providing 41% of the services nationwide under the program, it's going to put a strain on other providers if that provider is forced out of the market. The market will eventually catch up, but it won't be immediate and in that gap there could be life altering impacts on low income women. I'd rather not see that happen, especially when it's simply over scoring some political points.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:10 am to Ace Midnight
Your post reminds me of the Onion article from a few years ago.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:12 am to The Spleen
quote:Perhaps if the results are "life altering", these "low income women" should reconsider their sexual habits.
The market will eventually catch up, but it won't be immediate and in that gap there could be life altering impacts on low income women
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:12 am to ShortyRob
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So yeah. Go ahead. Try and tell me that they aren't playing up the ABORTION aspect.
I'm not saying that they're not
But that isn't evidence that PP has been lying all along and performing abortions via government funding
This is just an illustration of the media being incompetent. Something we already knew to be true.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:13 am to The Spleen
The spleen, I highly doubt the negligible cut is going to make a difference in access to services
This is why it is impossible to ever cut anything from govt: people like you raise hell that every dollar cut is of vital importance
This is why it is impossible to ever cut anything from govt: people like you raise hell that every dollar cut is of vital importance
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