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re: Sometimes, you are your own worst enemy.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:24 am to CreoleTigerEsq
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:24 am to CreoleTigerEsq
This whole thing remonds me of Nick Saban and Alabama football. Nick was and is still great, but it's time to move on because he's finished winning Championships
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:25 am to notsince98
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So you dont really get what MAGA is? Why on earth would not putting americans first, not ending endless wars, not being energy independent, etc. How would not doing those things be better for americans?
He isn't the only person on earth that can challenge the establishment status quo you know, and in fact, hes not even close to being the top champion for these causes anymore.
Trump is a damaged cult of personality who chooses some of the dumbest candidates imaginable to back. If he isn't put out to pasture, he's going to cost conservatives election cycles of power in much the same way that Hillary did to the dems.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:25 am to BoudinChicot
Right wing populism is a cancer.
Trump followers are in denial. You'll continue to lose by emembracing low IQ policies.
Trump followers are in denial. You'll continue to lose by emembracing low IQ policies.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:27 am to Jake88
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I've said for years that the kooks amongst the right are going to scare off moderates who don't want to be associated with them.
A lot of people don't want to be associated with people that have frick Joe Biden flags flying in their yards and from the back of their rusty trucks.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:28 am to CreoleTigerEsq
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Honestly, regroup and purge this got damn ignorance and lunacy out of your party and get back to common sense low tax, low spending, small government conservatism, and that will win you votes. Not this crazy shite.
To the extent MAGA has policy positions, they are actually good for our country. Low taxes. Pushing back against unfair trade. Focus on our border. Resist the urge to play world police. Dial back from globalism. Take care of ourselves before we worry about others.
The problem with MAGA isn't the policy itself (although I wish they would talk about it more).
The problem with MAGA is the same problem the Tea Party had... the people who become the "faces" are batshit insane crazy. They are persoally unhinged.
They are angry... which isn't terrible as long as one knows how to control their anger.
Trump didn't lose in 2020 because of his policy positions. He lost because he wouldn't shut TF up, because he unnecessairly atacked people, including people on his own side.
The problem with MAGA candidates is if you don't 100 percent support not only their positions, but their methods, then you are a cuck. Support 100 percent of their policy and 99 percent of thier methods? Cuck. Liberal scum.
That goes on long enough, after a while, most people are like F it, I don't want to work with you.
MAGA policies pushed by intelligent, non-a-hole candidates? 60 Senate seats is the floor.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:29 am to UTMaverick
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We need smart people in leadership who can articulate good policies, make good decisions, and have debates without resorting to playground insults.
I completely agree with you, but having members the GOP going on record saying they would push for a national ban on abortion is just shooting us in the foot. They are completely TONE DEAF to what America looks like right now.
Again, I am a two-time Trump voter and an extremely conservative Catholic. I also realize that a candidate harping on gay marriage and abortion isn't getting elected in 2024 no matter how much we may want it.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:29 am to UTMaverick
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Bake the damn cake
The majority of the country wants the cake to be baked.
That's what so much of this board doesn't understant.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:30 am to Mr Boyles
These people are stuck and can't escape 2020. They'll never be able to escape.
Populism is a cancer. You cannot govern people and talk to people like they are 12 years old and expect to receive any respect.
Trumpites have got to stop living in fear and find something to campaign for, not agains.
Populism is a cancer. You cannot govern people and talk to people like they are 12 years old and expect to receive any respect.
Trumpites have got to stop living in fear and find something to campaign for, not agains.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:30 am to BuckyCheese
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A lot of people don't want to be associated with people that have frick Joe Biden flags flying in their yards and from the back of their rusty trucks
Many of them post here.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:30 am to CreoleTigerEsq
Enjoy your crime and inflation dumb arse
You noobs are extremely transparent with your hot takes. All of a sudden, politics is important enough for you to come on vomit on the board for one day?
You noobs are extremely transparent with your hot takes. All of a sudden, politics is important enough for you to come on vomit on the board for one day?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
It is mind numbing because there are so many moderate voters with woke and covid fatigue who are ripe for the taking, as well as those who are concerned more with pragmatic problems like inflation than re-litigating the 2020 election ad nauseum.
These midterms were a fumble of epic proportions.
These midterms were a fumble of epic proportions.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:33 am to CreoleTigerEsq
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Not this crazy shite.
You are naive if you think there is some “sane” platform or candidate that will make one wit of difference on a national level, even in the short/medium term.
(FTR: I have absolutely no loyalty to any politician or candidate. None. Or even any USSC Justice. It begins and ends with the very chance of protecting the rule or written law and ousting corrupt politicians and legal positivists.)
Your sanctimonious, reductionist Wednesday am quarterbacking polemic is pat and boring.
But thanks for visiting, like so many sightseeing tourists on a holiday weekend.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:34 am to JackieTreehorn
Romney + Pence ‘24? Is that your play? 
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:34 am to BoudinChicot
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It is mind numbing because there are so many moderate voters with woke and covid fatigue who are ripe for the taking,
No they're not. They voted for a retarded communist hoodlum.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:38 am to CajunZ81
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So from what I gather is that you acknowledge our country has gone to shite at the hands of the establishment but you are also suggesting the establishment is the answer to get back on track?
No. What I am saying is that the Party has to put serious candidates up for election that are focused on the big picture that know how to articulate the Party's position without looking insane. It's honestly not that hard to do.
Instead of a coherent message about inflation, what Republicans/conservatives are going to do about it (aggressively cut government spending), most of what I heard during the run up to the midterms was anything but, and there should have been a "Contract with America" like platform that all candidates that ran against incumbents should have articulated about inflation and kitchen table issues.
Instead, many of these candidates gave Democrats the talking points they needed about saving democracy because of this election denial shite, all because of their devotion to one man. The Republican Party is bigger than one person.
.... and none of those candidates had to be establishment candidates.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:41 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:40 am to CreoleTigerEsq
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because too much of the power in one political party's power has been ceded to one man.
This is the problem, but not in the way you may think.
Trump is a bombastic, egotistical showman, but he has some good ideas and is often quite right. His economic and foreign policies as President were the polar opposite of Biden's and we see this every day from the impacts of Biden's poor leadership both domestically and internationally.
The problem comes in with the media having created this narrative that Trump is this evil tyrant as well as allowing him to dominate their broadcasts. We saw the narrative begin with the Russiagate hoax (pushed primarily by the Clinton machine and gleefully accepted at face value by a sympathetic media) and extend through almost everything Trump did (he was called a racist, for example, for daring to say COVID came from a lab in China). While Trump has continued to stay in the media's eye, it's not because he's paying them to continue to follow him but rather it's because he continues to draw views/clicks/plays/etc.
We see some of this here with low-brow chest-beaters being unable to support both DeSantis AND Trump, but the majority of the problem with Trump having so much political stroke comes from the media itself.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:41 am to CreoleTigerEsq
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No. What I am saying is that the Party has to put serious candidates up for election that are focused on the big picture that know how to articulate the Party's position without looking insane. It's honestly not that hard to do.
Instead of a coherent message about inflation, what Republicans/conservatives are going to do about it (aggressively cut government spending), most of what I heard during the run up to the midterms was anything but, and there should have been a "Contract with America" like platform that all candidates that ran against incumbents should have articulated about inflation and kitchen table issues.
It hasn't happened in 40+ years. Why do you think it would happen now? All career politicians are corrupted. Its part of the game to get party funding.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:42 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:42 am to BoudinChicot
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It is mind numbing because there are so many moderate voters with woke and covid fatigue who are ripe for the takin
This may have been the biggest political blunder in my lifetime. I'm blown away at how unpopular the MAGA message is to independents.
They'll keep doing it too. Because its a cult.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:44 am to CreoleTigerEsq
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the Party has to put serious candidates up for election
They chose the Hood level "in your face" style of politics.
They've been radicalized by the progressives. I don't think they can be reconciled as Conservatives ever again.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:56 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Romney + Pence ‘24? Is that your play?
Heavens no! Romney- Kinzinger 2024!
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