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re: Something Very Odd With The Florida COVID Numbers.

Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5046 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:01 pm to
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I saw DeSantis was supposedly down in the polls d/t his handling of CV19. So I decided to take a look and see how much longer the FL CV19 surge should last. Did a double-take when I saw the plummeting death trendline.
These graphs are deaths attributed to Covid, right? A simple explanation, especially with such a sharp drop-off would be that somebody at the state level just decided they shouldn't be reported.

What do the overall death rates for Florida look like?
Posted by wt9
Savannah, Ga
Member since Nov 2011
1123 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:01 pm to
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Something Very Odd With The Florida COVID Numbers.

What's odd is your data. What is your source?

I looked at about 5 different statistical sites. None of them have decreasing death trend and certainly not an exponential decrease.

I think the graph is BS. Of course the 5 I looked at probably pulls the same raw data. I would love to compare data.

I do expect this decreasing trend to come or at least I hope it will. It will be hard for media to ignore.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60901 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Either someone in FL has secretly cured COVID or something is being recorded incorrectly.


Or Florida cracked down on the corrupt bullshite data tracking going on elsewhere
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22676 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:24 pm to
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I saw DeSantis was supposedly down in the polls d/t his handling of CV19. So I decided to take a look and see how much longer the FL CV19 surge should last. Did a double-take when I saw the plummeting death trendline.

The EthicalSkeptic on Twitter had a thread on this a week ago. He's a data genius, and has been way out front the last 18 months on Covid reality -v- contrived/perception.

LINK
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128745 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:14 pm to
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A simple explanation, especially with such a sharp drop-off would be that somebody at the state level just decided they shouldn't be reported.


Did you enjoy voting for Joe Biden?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138660 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:53 pm to
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The EthicalSkeptic on Twitter had a thread on this a week ago.
Good find.
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Ethical Skeptic ?@EthicalSkeptic
Aug 21

Interesting effect has evolved regarding this latest Covid surge. A reversal in the relationship between case and death arrivals. In Florida, deaths followed cases by 17/18 days in the past outbreaks.

Now on average for this 'Delta' wave, people are dying before they get Covid.


I don't agree with his data inferences/conclusions though:
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So our 3 alternatives

1. Temporary effect from death reporting lag.
2. Exclusion of Covid cases not being counted as Covid, unless person dies.
3. ADE combined with 1 or 2 above

#1 is our default choice until the data shows otherwise.
3:00 PM · Aug 21, 2021
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138660 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Looks like data manipulation.
This may be the answer:
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Florida changed how it reports COVID statistics. The result? The pandemic appears to look less severe, with fewer recent deaths
By Cindy Krischner Goodman
Aug 13, 2021


Just as a highly contagious new delta variant sent Florida into a vicious COVID-19 surge, the state Department of Health changed the way it reports cases and deaths attributed to the virus.

The result: Florida no longer provides a real-time picture of how COVID is impacting the state.

The most dramatic example is that Florida’s daily death count had been trending upward since the end of June, but with the recent adjustments made by the state Department of Health, the number of deaths due to COVID appeared to decline dramatically over the past week. At least on paper.

Experts say the downward trend is not at all what’s really happening with COVID deaths in a state that continues to set records for the growing number of daily COVID cases and hospitalizations.

Deaths in Florida are increasing but still below the large numbers seen during the summer spikes in 2020, experts say. A COVID tracker created by The New York Times shows as of Aug. 10, Florida recorded a seven-day average of 141 deaths from the virus, a figure larger than 32 other states.

In contrast, according to the website maintained by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention using the information provided by the state Department of Health, Florida’s seven-day average as of Aug. 10 is only about third of that — 58 deaths.

“For Florida to move to a new system of reporting is technically correct, but in actuality, it is problematic because it distorts data,” said Bill Ku, a data scientist and former researcher at Columbia University who now runs covid19odds.com. “Deaths are not going down, and a lot of people are going to jump to the wrong conclusion about how they should carry on with their life.”

LINK
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22676 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Deaths in Florida are increasing but still below the large numbers seen during the summer spikes in 2020, experts say. A COVID tracker created by The New York Times shows as of Aug. 10, Florida recorded a seven-day average of 141 deaths from the virus, a figure larger than 32 other states.

In contrast, according to the website maintained by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention using the information provided by the state Department of Health, Florida’s seven-day average as of Aug. 10 is only about third of that — 58 deaths.

What was the change they made? If it's explained in the article, can't see it behind a paywall.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128745 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:05 pm to
They may have put deaths on the date the person died.

That pisses off reporters and public health people to no end.

When Missouri switched to that, a bunch of libs lost their minds.

In other words, if they harvest a death from a death certificate 6 months later, the death gets backdated to the actual date of the death rather than get dumped into current deaths. (You already know this.)
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:26 pm to
Wonder what they did. It’s definitely unique to Florida; can’t find where any other states are having an anomaly like this.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Mfdtiger
Deatsville, Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
817 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:58 pm to
Op’s chart is out of date, Florida’s 7 day death average is over 1700 today. A new high. They reported 900 deaths Friday.
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