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re: Some of you need to stop with the “Blame Arbery” threads.

Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:17 pm to
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with a loaded weapon.


Aaand??

What point do you imagine you're making?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:18 pm to
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neighborhood watchman and picking a fight with someone


Joke??
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:19 pm to
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not if they are carrying no



"Well, thats just, like, your opinion, man."
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Huh??
Do you still believe that Martin was a victim??



Did I say he was the victim?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:20 pm to
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I don’t know about loaded


Huh??
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:23 pm to
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Did I say he was the victim?


No...thats why I asked.

In your opinion, who was more at fault in the Martin case?
Just curious.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27881 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:28 pm to
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While we can't be sure of it's applicability in this case, what you're in effect saying is that citizens have no role in the protection of life, liberty or property.


Just when I think I've read the dumbest post ever on this board, along comes a dumber one.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:30 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27881 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:30 pm to
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Let's see who's "hopelessly stupid"?
What's your track record?
Who did you side with before:
Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman?
Michael Brown or Darren Wilson?


I supported Zimmerman and Wilson from the get-go in each case.

And I still have enough functioning brain cells to know that the dumbass rednecks in this case are guilty and are going to prison.

So go frick yourself.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27881 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:34 pm to
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Tell you what. Given the video, paint a scenario for us that justifies the actions of the two guys.

A reasonable explanation of what these guys were doing before the incident is important. This goes to their motive.
Were they involved in some kind of neighborhood watch?. Did they have a previous run in with the diseased? Had they had previous altercations or previous “arrests”? Did the cops know what they were doing? How did they respond so quickly? Did they have their firearms loaded and ready? The answers to these type questions are important.


They may be important to you, but they are all completely irrelevant as it pertains to the Georgia laws regarding ctizens arrest and use of lethal force.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Trying to deflect from the idiocy of the two morons just adds fuel to the fire.


This thing has been pushed as yet another in an infinite attempt to shame white people, more specifically , Southern white people.

When the whole premise of your crusade is adversarial in nature, don't be surprised when people poke back at you..

This isn't about "justice", it's just more hate-whitey, dog-whistle "Journalism" from the usual virtue-signaling suspects.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:36 pm to
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“Blame Arbery”

ummmm

1) The construction site owner had enough issues that he felt the need to install a hidden surveillance camera

2) The camera then caught Abery uninvited on site, 5 times AFTER the site owner installed surveillance due to someone being there illegally

3) Arbery illegally gained entry more than 6 times or more for SEVEN MONTHS, so he was there for other reasons than admiring the floor plan

4) Arbery grabbed for a loaded gun, which then discharged. He bears more than 50% responsibility for the actual shooting

5) Finally, if Arbery was willing to tussle with a armed man, what might he have done to the site owner had he stumbled across him during one of his many illegal entries??? Leave no witnesses????
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27881 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:36 pm to
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But when Arbery was aggressing, trying to get the gun, the shooting became self defense.





"Georgia law allows for a citizen’s arrest in a felony crime committed in one’s presence, said Arora, who is currently a criminal defense attorney in Atlanta. But a citizen can only use reasonable force to detain a person and deadly force cannot be used unless it’s to prevent a forcible felony or for self-defense.

Since the McMichaels initiated the confrontation with the weapons it will be difficult for them to claim self-defense and what appears on the security video doesn’t justify their actions, he said."

LINK

Seriously...it takes a special type of stupid to not be able to grasp the fact that the guy with the gun being pointed at him may fear for his life.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 12:38 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
80344 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:38 pm to
These guys would be screwed if I was on the jury.

But I also understand the layers of this are deeper than. See black man, shoot black man.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27881 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:39 pm to
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4) Arbery grabbed for a loaded gun, which then discharged. He bears more than 50% responsibility for the actual shooting



Maybe in your fricked up mind. Georgia law says otherwise.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27881 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 12:40 pm to
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Imagine thinking a citizen had every right to physically attack someone, attempt to kill them, because they are being followed outside.



Imagine being so fricking stupid that you can't grasp that a dumbass redneck pointing a gun at you may be about to kill you.

Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
9930 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:00 pm to
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Let's see who's "hopelessly stupid"?
What's your track record?
Who did you side with before:
Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman?
Michael Brown or Darren Wilson?

Not directed at me but I will say that I was very much in favor of Zimmerman. Michael Brown? Piece of shite who got what he had coming. With that said, I think what these guys did looks like some pretty fricked up shite.

Being a good Conservative and recognizing that a couple of white guys appear to have killed a black guy unjustly should not be mutually exclusive.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:03 pm to
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Trying to deflect from the idiocy of the two morons just adds fuel to the fire
not a crime to be an idiot (good for you)

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There is no defending their actions, and even hinting at that is just stupid.
maybe you aren't smart enough to understand if someone starts punching you, it's okay to shoot him.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
14164 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:04 pm to
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In your opinion, who was more at fault in the Martin case?
Just curious.


What difference does it make? The court ruled he (Zimmerman) was within his legal right.

It's a flawed law but one that the residents of Florida will have to fight to change if they so choose.

Martin was no choir boy and Zimmerman was no hero. One's dead and the other's life is pretty much ruined. Seems to me that both would do things differently that night if given the chance.

I had hopes that after the national publicity of that trial states would take a long look at their laws regarding what constitutes self defense or stand your ground, but apparently we're not there yet.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20468 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:07 pm to
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You're not wrong


You know this how at this point?
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