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Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:10 am to Wally Sparks
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How big of a ship?
I would imagine it would be a weight and speed type calculation, and less of a size.
Heres on article
LINK
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:04 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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How did this ONE ship lose power at a critical point, mere yards before going under a bridge?
Basic logic tells you that it’s highly likely foul play was involved.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:21 pm to ChatGPT of LA
This ship had twice the tonnage of the USS Missouri or roughly 95000 tons. This isn’t a tug boat. You armor bridge piers against scour or small boats but this is not preventable without exorbitant cost.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:33 pm to Hangover Haven
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Some idiot reporter just asked Buttigieg… by Hangover Haven
About bridge failures over the past years, and should we be concerned about more bridge failures?
The attempt to frame this as a bridge failure is about money. If we just had a couple billion dollars we can make sure bridges don't fail like this one did in the future.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:36 pm to Hangover Haven
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About bridge failures over the past years, and should we be concerned about more bridge failures?
I think anyone with a brain should. Yes the ship was an unusual circumstance but some of these bridges are over 80 years old.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 12:39 pm to moneyg
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How did this ONE ship lose power at a critical point, mere yards before going under a bridge?
Basic logic tells you that it’s highly likely foul play was involved.
Meh...maybe. But also had just loaded, and surely topped w fuel, etc.
Many many points of possibilities of failure. And the time for those to take place would be early upon departure.
Foul play is absolutely a possibility as well
I'd be interested on why the lights went out? Did engine's die? Would lights ALL go out w engine failure?
The thick black plume of exhaust is telling. Is that the restart of engines and slamming into reverse 100%?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:57 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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The thick black plume of exhaust is telling. Is that the restart of engines and slamming into reverse 100%?
Someone mix diesel with unleaded? I don't know a thing about these ships to explain how that's a telltale sign of something wrong with the engine. Other than it looks off.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:59 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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theres a report out that the legs were designed to take a direct hit from a ship.
You mean the bridge that was designed in the late 1960’s?
And that report is supposed to be making some sort of point?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:02 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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How did this ONE ship lose power at a critical point, mere yards before going under a bridge?
It first lost power almost a half mile from the bridge, less than 20 minutes from leaving the dock. It’s very clear there was a mechanical malfunction that left the ship without propulsion and/or steering until it was too late to recover.
You don’t seem intelligent.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:44 pm to Indefatigable
Your last comment first.
This is how I know you aren't.
The short video I'd seen on the incident showed the ship lose power 2 x, then hit the bridge. With that, I made the above comment. I know you can't explain why there's anything wrong with it.
So? That sounds like a long distance for a car or a truck, but for a container ship that is nearly 1000ft itself, *almost* 1/2 a mile is... approx 2,500 ft. So just about 2.5 x the length of the vessel. Even assuming no current, the momentum of the boat & its weight is going to carry it forward when the power cuts out. Add in any current and wind, which was reported to be 13 knots, of course it's not coming to a grinding or even a gentle stop in that short of distance.
No shite, Sherlock. But why? Just because the pilot didn't intentionally ram the ship into the bridge, doesn't dismiss that it could still be sabotage. Either onboard or some sort of hack.
Doesn't verify it either, but the chance that it was, based on the early info, is a non-zero number.
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You don’t seem intelligent.
This is how I know you aren't.
The short video I'd seen on the incident showed the ship lose power 2 x, then hit the bridge. With that, I made the above comment. I know you can't explain why there's anything wrong with it.
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It first lost power almost a half mile from the bridge,
So? That sounds like a long distance for a car or a truck, but for a container ship that is nearly 1000ft itself, *almost* 1/2 a mile is... approx 2,500 ft. So just about 2.5 x the length of the vessel. Even assuming no current, the momentum of the boat & its weight is going to carry it forward when the power cuts out. Add in any current and wind, which was reported to be 13 knots, of course it's not coming to a grinding or even a gentle stop in that short of distance.
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less than 20 minutes from leaving the dock. It’s very clear there was a mechanical malfunction that left the ship without propulsion and/or steering until it was too late to recover.
No shite, Sherlock. But why? Just because the pilot didn't intentionally ram the ship into the bridge, doesn't dismiss that it could still be sabotage. Either onboard or some sort of hack.
Doesn't verify it either, but the chance that it was, based on the early info, is a non-zero number.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:59 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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But why?
Because shite breaks sometimes.
But carry on with your usual nonsense, I suppose. By all means wrap yourself around the axle convinced that it was the CIA or Ukraine, etc. You’ve already done that presumably, so might as well keep digging.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:31 pm to Indefatigable
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Because shite breaks sometimes.
Forget about maintenance logs, replacing parts while in port, or doing any sort of diagnostic work. Just load 'em up and head on out to the open sea, huh?
And by 'usual nonsense', you mean asking sober questions without going off the Qanon deep end? Yeah, I've been doing that for like ever. Try it sometimes.
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By all means wrap yourself around the axle convinced that it was the CIA or Ukraine,
Cite where I had done that in this or any thread.
But since you're going there...
Russia might be a more viable suspect. Possibly China. But the CIA, or some branch of the US gov, which pulled off the Nord Stream 2 detonation can't be ruled out either.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:42 pm to Hangover Haven
Buttigeig only knows a lot about one thing and it has nothing to do with bridges.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:45 pm to ChatGPT of LA
quote:And the world trade center buildings were designed to withstand a direct hit from the largest commercial plane at the time. Unfortunately that was a 737.
ell, in all fairness, theres a report out that the legs were designed to take a direct hit from a ship.
So there's that
Posted on 3/27/24 at 6:47 pm to mmcgrath
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Unfortunately that was a 737.
that’s not even truePosted on 3/27/24 at 6:54 pm to Hangover Haven
According to Mayor Pete, bridges are racist.
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