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re: Sociology Professor To Conservative Student: 'F*** Your Life!'
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:21 pm to rbWarEagle
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:21 pm to rbWarEagle
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People who try and make this argument are essentially saying that college age students aren't smart enough to make up their own mind.
It's not about being smart. It's about group think and the affects of peer pressure. How many students do you suppose dare and express conservative opinions in modern day college classrooms? I'd bet it's a minuscule amount.
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:23 pm to L.A.
quote:
Finklestein
Rofl...Not. Gonna. Troll.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:25 pm to Revelator
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It's not about being smart.
Disagree. Passively accepting a political (or other) opinion as fact is not a sign of intelligence. I've been in many classes where there were open arguments and discussions on topics that might otherwise be taboo. "Peer pressure" hasn't really been a factor in my experience.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:32 pm to rbWarEagle
Probably depends on the school. Hard science professors aren’t looking to share their politics most of the time. I didn’t have a single liberal arts professor that didn’t share their political ideology regularly from the pulpit of their lectures.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:33 pm to ShortyRob
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Conservative viewpoints among university faculty are about as common as they are among blacks
Blacks are actually very conservative. I'm surprised they vote so overwhelmingly Democrat.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:36 pm to the808bass
Of course it depends on the school and the program. The majority of stories that I've seen on the subject (at least on this board... because I don't really see them elsewhere) have "Sociology professor says ____" or "English professor says ____" or "Gender studies professor says ____". I just don't think it's quite as much of a ubiquitous problem across programs or across institutions as it's made out to be.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:39 pm to L.A.
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"f--- your life,"
First thing that came to mind
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:42 pm to TerryDawg03
RIP Charlie Murphy 
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:53 pm to rbWarEagle
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Even if that's true, that doesn't mean that most professors are standing on a soapbox pushing their political messages. Most professors I know would rather not broach the subject of politics at all.
You can't possibly be this stupid. You don't have to talk politics for it to be an issue. Damn. This is what's wrong with journalism. frickers genuinely can't comprehend that if everyone in the room has the same viewpoint, it will have an effect upon how information is conveyed.
That really shouldn't have to be explained.
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 4/21/18 at 2:55 pm to TexasTiger80
They’re socially conservative but not fiscally
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:09 pm to ShortyRob
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frickers genuinely can't comprehend that if everyone in the room has the same viewpoint, it will have an effect upon how information is conveyed.
Give me an example in a college setting. Be specific. Also, there is evidence that moderatism is on the rise, at least within PhD granting institutions (Gross and Simmons, 2007). Of course most professors are liberal but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude that they convey factual information in an improper way.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:15 pm to rbWarEagle
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that doesn't mean that most professors are standing on a soapbox pushing their political messages.
They are. A&M is conservative as frick and I had many professors rant about climate change and other liberal agendas. It's commonplace on college campuses
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:16 pm to L.A.
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Intercultural Communication
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:19 pm to texag7
And I could count on one hand the number of times a professor of mine ranted with a "liberal agenda" (Had a professor in undergrad who did all the time, though, and no one took her seriously. We all talked shite about it after class.). So maybe we shouldn't take your experience and attempt to apply it to the experience of everyone or call it "commonplace".
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:19 pm to NIH
quote:
Fecalstink
FIFY.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:19 pm to texag7
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They are. A&M is conservative as frick and I had many professors rant about climate change and other liberal agendas. It's commonplace on college campuses
I had a college English professor years ago write on one of my drafts that he didn't like the theme of my paper and he suggested that I change the topic or suffer a grade loss. This was 1991.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:20 pm to Revelator
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It's not about being smart. It's about group think and the affects of peer pressure. How many students do you suppose dare and express conservative opinions in modern day college classrooms? I'd bet it's a minuscule amount.
I know a few conservative college professors, even they are afraid of expressing their political viewpoints for fear of ridicule, and the effect it could have on their job. Academic freedom, and the free exchange of differing points of view is non-existent on most campuses.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:20 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:Good God.
Give me an example in a college setting. Be specific. Also, there is evidence that moderatism is on the rise, at least within PhD granting institutions (Gross and Simmons, 2007). Of course most professors are liberal but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude that they convey factual information in an improper way.
You do realize that I could stand in front of a class for the rest of my life and never say a word that was factually inaccurate and be biased as frick. Right? You do understand that reality? Right? Because. I mean. If you don't understand that basic shite, I don't how to move forward in the discussion.
Moreover, I could be biased as frick and not even be TRYING to be biased. Why? Well, because NO ONE can cover ALL information. I mean, again, this is a basic fact that you have to recognize.
Since no one can cover ALL information, what one chooses to cover is affected by one's own biases. The language one uses while discussing information is affected by one's own biases.
And all of that is just when we're talking about people with ZERO intent.
So, if 90% plus of your professors view the world in a particular way, all of the above not only can be true. It literally MUST be true.
Add in the subset of that 90% that is willful about it, and that's really just the cherry on top.
This is fricking human nature. It's why journalism is broke. And it has nothing to do with liberalism. The EXACT SAME THING would be true if 90% plus of journalists and/or professors were conservative. Just the opposite problem.
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:23 pm to Revelator
I had speech freshman year at A&M. COMM 203 a mandatory core class.
Gave one of my speeches towards the end of the semester on illegal immigration just to see what happened (TA was a fat bitch from some rando school in Georgia). Had previously gotten A's but this one got a C
Gave one of my speeches towards the end of the semester on illegal immigration just to see what happened (TA was a fat bitch from some rando school in Georgia). Had previously gotten A's but this one got a C
Posted on 4/21/18 at 3:23 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:This isn't the problem. I mean, it's a symptom of it. When a person of this sort is in an ideological silo, he feels comfortable doing it because even those who don't do it at least agree with him on substance.
And I could count on one hand the number of times a professor of mine ranted with a "liberal agenda"
But the problem isn't the nutty liberal whacko who can't shut up. It's the ideological silo.
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