So where’s the militia/patriots protecting us from the government now?

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The arguement being that we need an armed citizenry to keep our government in check, why isn’t it occuring? Civil asset forfeiture, war on drugs, highest incarceration rate in the world, surveillance state monitoring everything you do, "the swamp", etc.

What line has to be crossed or is it simply lip service to give ourselves an illusion that we control the government and not vice versa?

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The citizens have absolutely given the government way too much leverage, but shite won't hit the fan until it actually begins to affect everyday Americans on the scale where they feel it every day.

So what you’re saying is that since we’ve already given up some rights to the government, why stop now? That we should just roll over all the way??



This is what we get for compromising on anything

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So what you’re saying is that since we’ve already given up some rights to the government, why stop now? That we should just roll over all the way??

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Nah, I’m saying we never should have gave them up in the first place. But I’m also saying the idea that an armed citizenry keeps the government in check is a farce. People talk tough but never do shite about it. Meanwhile the government continues unreasonable searches and seizures via CAF and dragnet NSA surveillance.

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highest incarceration rate in the world

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I don't break the law. That's on them.

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But I’m also saying the idea that an armed citizenry keeps the government in check is a farce.

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An armed populace is definitely a concern for the State - but so long as we are placated with various forms of entertainment and we have fairly comfortable lives, there isn't much of a threat. It's when things go south and widespread disillusionment with the current system begins to spread that tens of millions of armed potential anti-state actors begins to make certain people sweat.

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So where’s the militia/patriots protecting us from the government now?

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The "militia/patriots" showed up in November 2016 in the form of Trump supporters. Without them, the government corruption and overreach would have grown exponentially.

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But I’m also saying the idea that an armed citizenry keeps the government in check is a farce. People talk tough but never do shite about it. Meanwhile the government continues unreasonable searches and seizures via CAF and dragnet NSA surveillance.

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Nice try FBI...

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As an individual, no, certainly not. But if it's a large contigent of citizens, then all of a sudden that begins to change. The State predates and consumes the productivity of its citizens (how can it exist otherwise?) - if it kills off human capital as well as physical capital, then it destroys that which gives it sustenance.

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I mean I agree with that, which is why government tyranny focuses on isolating individuals. Any organizational impulse is also laden with mistrust, given this government's proclivity for using double agents. My point is that many people agree with the government when it does isolate and target individuals, often saying glib things that assume guilt simply by virtue of being targeted.

It's also why I wish there was more emphasis on the collective rights of bearing arms written into the 2nd amendment, as a well-regulated militia implies an organizational framework that is much more threatening to a government than an individual being arms.

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Having one rifle or 50 won't make a difference when you have to go up against military class technology.

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This assumes the military won't side with the citizens of the US against the State.