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re: So we now know where dogs came from:
Posted on 12/27/25 at 1:20 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 12/27/25 at 1:20 pm to Azkiger
quote:Not really. Luke does the best he could at extrapolating based on temple records. Ussher extrapolated based on Luke. Neither accounted for allegory.
Bible traces Jesus's lineage back to Adam
quote:
I've done the math
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Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:02 pm to Timeoday
quote:
As the sun moves through the Milky Way, it creates extreme ocean events.
wut?? - pretty sure the suns trajectory wrt the Milky Way has no measurable effect on anything earthbound - certainly something like "extreme ocean event"
Extreme ocean events do occur = A huge meteor like the dinosaur killer created huge waves that were noticeable across the whole earth.
But continual drift is what causes great waterfalls thru Gibralter - that has happened more than once as the straits have opened/closed a number of times.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:36 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
you're joking?
Snow and ice melts resulted sudden catastrophic flooding at numerous points worldwide with the end of the most recent stadial. You didn't know that?
Wait, you're calling water levels rising over decades a flood?
Posted on 12/27/25 at 2:37 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Neither accounted for allegory.
There it is. Everything's literal until science proves it to be bullshite.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 3:15 pm to Azkiger
quote:Says the person who doesn't "believe" massive worldwide floods occurred during the YoungerDryas - Holocene transition?
There it is.
Everything's literal until science proves it to be bullshite.
No. "Everything" in the Bible is not literal. Not now. Not ever. The Bible even occasionally points that out for the reader.
The fact you'd take the antithetical view though, and allow such a view to interfere with known science .... the Bible says it, therefore it cannot be true .... is a sort of BDS .... Bible Derangement Syndrome.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 12/27/25 at 4:58 pm to Azkiger
quote:
Everything's literal until science proves it to be bullshite.
you should probably read the Bible. Posted on 12/27/25 at 5:33 pm to Azkiger
quote:No.
Wait, you're calling water levels rising over decades a flood?
You really should read a bit about stadial-interstadial moments in an ice age before you make an arse of yourself.
Posted on 12/27/25 at 11:03 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Says the person who doesn't "believe" massive worldwide floods occurred during the YoungerDryas - Holocene transition?
Lets discuss the holocene transition.
Sea levels rose 1-2 meters per century (or about .6 inches a year).
That's the "global flood" you're leaning on.
Again, it's completely literal until we actually know fricking better. We'll, some of us know fricking better...
Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:18 am to Azkiger
quote:Goodness
Lets discuss the holocene transition.
Sea levels rose 1-2 meters per century (or about .6 inches a year).
That's the "global flood" you're leaning on.
Again, it's completely literal until we actually know fricking better. We'll, some of us know fricking better...
You actually returned to your sea-level rise stupidity instead of trying to catch up?
Really?
.... Even after suggestions offered here that the floods had nothing at all to do with your sea level premise, and, by corollary, holding you don't understand WTF you're talking about? You still went back your sea level rise nonsense?
There are hundreds of articles detailing prehistoric glacial melts, ice and/or moraine dam failure, and catastrophic outburst flooding secondary to rapid rewarming during the final phase of Termination I.
None of which is related to slow global sea level rise. Although in the case of straits like the Bering, Gibraltar, or the Dardanelles, there may have been salt water flooding as well, as barriers in those areas gave way.
But in the end, not only are you unfamiliar with the science; you were too lazy to do a simple search to educate yourself.
E.g.,
quote:
Here, we present results from comprehensive mapping that demonstrate the existence and final catastrophic drainage of multiple ice-dammed lakes in southern Norway during the Early Holocene, as well as key landforms that detail the course of glacial retreat. We have identified several previously unknown ice-dammed lakes and described three hitherto unknown 15–80 km3-large glacial lake outburst floods. The floods formed mega dunes, large flood bars, canyons and other distinctive features in the impacted areas downstream. We present a relative chronology for the ice-dammed lakes and drainage events that, coupled with existing chronological constraints, allow detailed palaeoglaciology reconstructions in a period of rapid deglaciation.
LINK
Posted on 12/28/25 at 4:46 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
instead of trying to catch up?
I asked you for locations and dates, you gave me a global trend. This was your claim, not mine. Time to back it up.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:37 am to SeeeeK
Wait until you learn what the qanon folks believe
Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:46 am to SeeeeK
Am I missing why this is political?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:49 am to Azkiger
quote:Good Lord.
I asked you for locations and dates
You really are that incapable? Seriously?
Where?
North America: Missoula, Agassiz
Europe: Saalian Glaciation
Asia: Himalayan Region and Russia
ME: Gulf Oasis, Persian Gulf (Agassiz related)
When?
The Persian Gulf catastrophe occurred ~6000BC
Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:50 am to SeeeeK
Scence is always changing.
And always will
And always will
Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:02 am to SWINC
quote:The OP is not really science. It's more an overtly simpleton pseudorepresentation of evolution
Scence is always changing.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:35 am to Azkiger
quote:
Again, it's completely literal until we actually know fricking better. We'll, some of us know fricking better...
Not really…Everyone is guessing or has faith in sone idea. The same scientific consensus you’ve so sure about today will likely have a different consensus in a century or so. Your faith just happens to be in a more recent idea. Know one really KNOWS.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 6:39 am to SeeeeK
So dogs came from dinosaurs, which came from lizards, which came from fish, which came from trilobites, which came from single called creatures? Riiiiight.
Takes a whole lotta faith to swallow that malarkey.
Takes a whole lotta faith to swallow that malarkey.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 7:22 am to cssamerican
quote:Well, that is not quite true. We know quite a bit about canis evolution. We know quite a bit about prehistoric floods across the Northern Hemisphere. We know quite a bit about BDS, and the flaws in atheistic faith "theory" as well.
Know one really KNOWS.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 7:27 am to SeeeeK
Love how they just “skip” to the eukaryotic stage, which is the end of the biggest logical gap in this entire process, meaning “goo” to spontaneous manifestation of functional biological polymers (RNA or Peptide, still no rational for how either could form) to a nucleated cell with organelles.
Oh and how these single cell fall into the mud and miraculously become an organism.
Funniest part is that people who reject the notion of creationism via a more monotheistic God as something supernatural but endorse this narrative are still accepting on faith something at it’s core is also supernatural and unproven!
Oh and how these single cell fall into the mud and miraculously become an organism.
Funniest part is that people who reject the notion of creationism via a more monotheistic God as something supernatural but endorse this narrative are still accepting on faith something at it’s core is also supernatural and unproven!
Posted on 12/28/25 at 11:22 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
You really are that incapable? Seriously?
Where?
North America: Missoula, Agassiz
Europe: Saalian Glaciation
Asia: Himalayan Region and Russia
ME: Gulf Oasis, Persian Gulf (Agassiz related)
When?
The Persian Gulf catastrophe occurred ~6000BC
My man, you said people were affected globally.
Im going to need specific locations of very intense/rapid flooding impacting human communities.
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