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re: So Putin needs help from the Teletubby
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:55 am to omegaman66
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:55 am to omegaman66
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is Zelenski that started using cluster bombs.
Civilians had been murdered en masse and cities leveled before Ukraine ever took possession of cluster munitions, so that argument doesn't hold water.
quote:Are you still buying the "de-Nazification" bullshite?
It is Zelenski that has Nazi's on his side.
quote:The Russians didn't start this war because they wanted the Donbas. They have to take Ukraine in its entirety (and then some) to achieve their objective.
Now the Russians have taken more territory then they demanded in the peace talks. This land will now remain with Russia.
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:25 pm to Tantal
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Civilians had been murdered en masse and cities leveled before Ukraine ever took possession of cluster munitions, so that argument doesn't hold water.
Russia had refrained from using cluster munitions. Ukraine started using them. This is a war atrocity that was started by Ukraine. So the argument does hold water. I never tied it to any other atrocities that was you accusation, not mine.
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Are you still buying the "de-Nazification" bullshite?
De-Nazification was one of the early demands for peace by Russia. That have since removed that demand. The Nazi's can remain. Does that make you happy?
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They have to take Ukraine in its entirety (and then some) to achieve their objective.
That was never one of their objectives.
And back on the subject of atrocities. The sovereign Ukrainian govt was overthrown by foreign interest in 2014. That is when the extermination of the Russian speaking population in the Southeastern portion of the country began.
You side is so narrow minded. Try not throwing out the facts that you don't like for once.
Why are us so upset about the invasion of the "sovereign" country of Ukraine being invaded by Russia. But you don't protest the USA invasion and occupation of Syria. Also a "sovereign" country?
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:45 pm to Geekboy
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If I told that to San Francisco there probably isn’t a resident there that would understand what I was saying. They’d be too busy shitting on a sidewalk.
Or if I told a resident of L.A. they would probably be too arrogant to understand.
Don't get me wrong - I don't think that KJU is going to launch a nuke at the US.
The DS globalists might, and SAY it was NoKo, but KJU isn't that dumb.
Spitball: Nov. 5, 2024, Americans go to the polls despite efforts earlier in the week to postpone the general election due to a "foreign cyberattack." CISA & the US Military oversee in-person voting on hard copy pollbooks per the CISA charter.
Trump wins overwhelmingly (100M+ votes)
DS loses their minds, activates rogue sub paid for previously in some black budget op - launches nuke intended to give appearance of North Korean first strike.
Missile is likely either intercepted or splashes down without striking target of US city (presumably on West Coast). MSM feeding frenzy begins.
Uniparty/DS hacks screech incoherently for war. MSM breathlessly covers war drums.
President Elect Trump is the only one who is advocating for peace, and as a former close friend of KJU, he asks for opportunity to talk NoKo down from ledge.
Peacemaker-in-Chief AGAIN achieves goal of avoiding war.
DS cyberattacks continue, possible internet kill and/or social media blackout in effort to keep their misdeeds from coming to light. Outrage of American people grows, and they demand justice from Trump 47 administration against foreign and domestic enemies of the United States.
After inauguration, Trump unleashes hell.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:47 pm to omegaman66
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Russia had refrained from using cluster munitions. Ukraine started using them.
I guess it's OK since they were only shelling civilian apartment buildings with conventional artillery. My bad.
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De-Nazification was one of the early demands for peace by Russia.
"De-Nazification" was always bullshite propaganda, but some bought it anyway.
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That is when the extermination of the Russian speaking population in the Southeastern portion of the country began.
If that were the case, then why didn't Russia give them refuge? They short on space over there?
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But you don't protest the USA invasion and occupation of Syria. Also a "sovereign" country?
We don't really give a shite about Syria. For now we're just keeping the Russians on their side of the Euphrates and keeping Iran in check. We're slowly, and rightfully, backing away from that stance though. Our interest in the Middle East is dwindling. Once we're completely out, that place is going to go up like a powder keg.
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:14 pm to Tantal
What part of denazification do you think was bullshite. You don't think there are nazi's there? Clarify for me please.
Right so you demonize Russia but give a pass to whoever you want to, on the grounds that well it is ok to invade them because we don't give a shite about them. Got it.
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We don't really give a shite about Syria.
Right so you demonize Russia but give a pass to whoever you want to, on the grounds that well it is ok to invade them because we don't give a shite about them. Got it.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:51 pm to Tantal
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"De-Nazification" was always bullshite propaganda, but some bought it anyway.
Tell them that.
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Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:52 pm to VoxDawg
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VoxDawg
So you believe it was about denazification?
Go on record.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:54 pm to TrueTiger
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He got fat again.
He had trimmed up for a while.
Both of these shitbags have been rumored to be terminal before. There's no telling what kind of weird hormones and other bullshite they shoot them up with.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:58 pm to omegaman66
quote:but the Dems are laundering a shitton of money through Ukraine. So it's all okay.
The USA via NATO is destroying Ukraine with the failure to recognize reality.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:07 pm to omegaman66
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What part of denazification do you think was bullshite. You don't think there are nazi's there? Clarify for me please.
I don't really give a shite if there are Nazis there and neither does Russia. They just knew that the "de-Nazification" angle would play well with smooth-brained Westerners.
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Right so you demonize Russia but give a pass to whoever you want to, on the grounds that well it is ok to invade them because we don't give a shite about them. Got it.
We're not bombing civilians in cities in Syria. Our involvement there was part of our fight against ISIS and, let's be honest here, protection of resources in the case of the Battle of Kasham. Either way, we're slowly (and rightfully) withdrawing from that entire region. We don't need Middle Eastern energy anymore. If our allies want it, they can go get it themselves.
BTW, why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine, both in 2014 and 2022?
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:15 pm to VoxDawg
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Tell them that.
I'm not suggesting that there aren't some Nazi elements in Ukraine. That's just not the reason that Russia invaded. Do you really think that Putin cares enough about a few Nazis in a neighboring country to risk sanctions, the crippling of their economy, the expenditure of so many of their munitions that he had to go hat-in-hand to Kim to beg for more, and the deaths of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of young Russian men that are in extremely short supply?
Why do YOU think Russia invaded Ukraine?
This post was edited on 9/15/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:31 pm to Tantal
Russia's use of cluster munitions
Russia and cluster munitions
Russia is and has been using cluster munitions, and used them first. But this doesn't fit the narrative, so we'll say Human Rights Watch and the Cluster Munitions Coalition are a Nazi organization or some such, I"m sure.
How anyone can think Putin is the good guy for invading a neighbor and that neighbor is the bad guy for fighting back against invasion, and it's somehow in the US's interest to allow authoritarian regimes to invade their neighbors is beyond me. But it seems there is a growing love for authoritarianism everywhere that is beyond me, so...
Russia and cluster munitions
Russia is and has been using cluster munitions, and used them first. But this doesn't fit the narrative, so we'll say Human Rights Watch and the Cluster Munitions Coalition are a Nazi organization or some such, I"m sure.
How anyone can think Putin is the good guy for invading a neighbor and that neighbor is the bad guy for fighting back against invasion, and it's somehow in the US's interest to allow authoritarian regimes to invade their neighbors is beyond me. But it seems there is a growing love for authoritarianism everywhere that is beyond me, so...
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:58 pm to omegaman66
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Russia had refrained from using cluster munitions.
This is bullshite. Ask the citizens of Kharkiv if Russia has used cluster munitions.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:18 pm to FreddieMac
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Man some of you are a bit unhinged. I still have not received a good reason why we should be spending billions of dollars in Ukraine?
When you say "unhinged" I'm hoping you're referring to the guy that said that Putin hasn't done anything he disliked.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 4:43 pm to Tantal
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Shelling civilian apartments in a neighboring country didn't do it for you?
For this board it might have to be a "live boy, dead girl" scenario that might stifle just some of the fawning and gushing. But even that might not do it.
Civilian apartments?
According to the Bolshevik Code as described by the European Institute, he did this to his own people, getting his FSB to plant bombs among them, and blame the carnage on Chechnyans in an attempt to whip the Russian citizens into a frenzy expecting from them approbation for him to resume the bombing of Chechnya.
Great tactical plan of deception until Russian citizens actually caught members of his FSB in the act.
Killing his own citizens for a desired political objective. Once again proving that even a residual, left over Bolshevik Leninist devotee is capable of anything.
Which resulted in the Second Chechen war and was instrumental in his rise to power succeeding Boris Yeltsin.
But he's going to save us all from the NWO/globalists.
The Bolshevik is reaching out to everyone. See BRICS members.
His cousins the ChiComs are still planning that new canal in Nicaragua. A project that will significantly heighten their presence and control in this Hemisphere.
Couldn't have anything to do with Putin's fantasies about eventually isolating this Northern Hemisphere to go along with his aspirations to at least start the process for recovering those lost Soviets.
By any chance does he see himself losing his authoritative image of Bolshevik aggressiveness and strength among Russians which would require him to once again be shown carefully in the presence of a juvenile-sized Siberian tiger.
Might even require another photo-op with him seen in the presence of the greatest heavyweight to ever fight in the Octagon - Emelianenko.
But with Emelianenko's retirement he might have to move on to the present greatest UFC heavyweight, Stipe Miocic, but unfortunately Miocic is an American-born Croatian, whose ancestral land made it clear it would not be dictated to by Bolsheviks.
He'll have to find someone closer to home for the next photo-op. But it won't be with the greatest.
Still wouldn't mind hearing of either of the Klitschko brothers catching him away from the protection of his FSB just for five minutes.
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