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re: So now, "Our thoughts and Prayers" needs to be outlawed

Posted on 11/10/18 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 2:58 pm to
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t didn't pertain to my point.

I am mocking your stance.


Lol it clearly did when I said “I don’t care if you offer thoughts and prayers, but...”

You guys are the friend of the battered woman who keeps getting beat and you just offer your moral support after instead of offering her your couch to stay on to get away from the abuse. Nice sentiment and all, but at some point it just becomes laughably hollow as she keeps getting her arse beat and you keep patting yourself on the back for your thoughts and prayers while avoiding taking any concrete action to maybe stop the abuse.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80383 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 3:04 pm to
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Hey kid, the whole argument for gun-control has been laughably hollow for decades. Nothing but feel-good-do-nothing activism by those of poor education and poor critical thinking skills. Nobody gets mad at you, you get mad when your bullshite is called though.


right, and we’ve given your “thoughts and prayers” idea a good shot, but that’s not getting us anywhere either.

I’m ready to get to the point where we actually celebrate these mass shootings as evidence of how fricking free we are as a society. Sorry about your dead kid, but did you see the FREEDOM that lunatic possessed when we knew he was crazy but we still let him purchase a semi-automatic rifle with huge magazine that let him mow down 26 first graders just as fast as he could pull that little trigger?

We should all get fully erect freedom boners every time a school or a movie theater gets shot up. Another ideation of American Exceptionalism
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 3:05 pm to
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The left has become such a caricature of it's former self I now have a hard time distinguishing if it is a 'real' leftist or a normal person making fun of them.




This
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 3:46 pm to
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No, it's my faith. Your excuse is using me. I don't find it funny.


Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 4:05 pm to
I almost look forward to the neckbeards who reee just because people express sympathy and mourn in a collective way that fits their own culture.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2409 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 4:22 pm to
The percentage of legal gun owners who use their guns to murder, is very very low. Similarly, I'm thinking the percentage of people who legally consume alcohol and then drive drunk and kill someone is very low. Why is it that when a drunk driver kills people, we don't have skyscreamers demanding alcohol be made illegal or more restricted? Why, when offering thoughts and prayers to the parents of a child killed by a drunk driver they don't scream at you to keep your prayers and do something to get rid of alcohol? Why don't they demand background checks before people are allowed to buy alcohol--what if that person is a known alcoholic, should they be allowed to buy alcohol? (of course. I'm just using this as a comparison, not arguing for it) It's not the alcohol that kills, it's the person who uses it and chooses to get behind the wheel.
Posted by bleedpg
Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
Member since Dec 2006
1117 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 4:52 pm to
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many non-statist atheists will support the dissolution of Christianity without realizing the impact it has on their own freedom. Killing non-violent religious freedom is one of the first steps to ending personal freedom.


Serious question. What does "non-statist" mean with regard to your statement? I'm not that bright
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 5:55 pm to
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It's not the alcohol that kills, it's the person who uses it and chooses to get behind the wheel.


they understand that. which is why they want things like registration, background checks, psych evals, competency tests, etc.

it has always worked this way -- we trade freedoms and rights for safety. states need to play a more active role in regulating firearms.. and the federal government needs to largely stay out of it.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2409 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:04 pm to
Then why not the same background checks, psych evals, registration etc for the purchase of alcohol?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:34 pm to
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Why do you (JJDoc) feel the need to mislead on the Internet?
Do you think he is intentionally misleading or that he is actually as dumb as he seems? My money is on the latter, because I have watched him argue in support of the stupid pabulum he posts.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 6:49 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:34 pm to
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Then why not the same background checks, psych evals, registration etc for the purchase of alcohol?


Because we chose to regulate the automobile side of the problem. Much like the gun control argument
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2409 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:39 pm to
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quote: Because we chose to regulate the automobile side of the problem. Much like the gun control argument


How so? There are no background checks or psych evals when a person gets a license are there? If someone I know is a raging alcoholic and I call the police and say I'm afraid they might drive drunk and hurt somebody one day, will their license or car be taken away preemptively?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:40 pm to
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Because we chose to regulate the automobile side of the problem
do tell
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:43 pm to
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If someone I know is a raging alcoholic and I call the police and say I'm afraid they might drive drunk and hurt somebody one day, will their license or car be taken away preemptively


No.. but if cars were routinely being used for mass murder maybe we would.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:46 pm to
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Why is it that when a drunk driver kills people, we don't have skyscreamers demanding alcohol be made illegal or more restricted?
Son, how old are you? You clearly missed MADD and the entire 1980s and 1990s.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:47 pm to
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Then why not the same background checks, psych evals, registration etc for the purchase of alcohol?
They have done the equivalent with higher purchase ages, lower BAL levels, enhanced penalties, etc.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2409 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:49 pm to
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Son, how old are you? You clearly missed MADD and the entire 1980s and 1990s.

Not a son, and plenty old. MADD campaigned against drunk driving by demanding lower blood alcohol levels and stiffer penalties didn't they? They didn't say "no alcohol". They didn't try to outlaw alcohol altogether or even certain types of alcohol, such as anything stronger than beer.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2409 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:52 pm to
lower blood levels and stiffer penalties are appropriate measures for those found guilty of committing a crime by drinking and driving. The lower drinking age penalized people who hadn't done anything wrong. Legal age is 18. All rights and responsibilities should then be afforded to said 18 year old. Drinking, voting, gun purchase, enlisting and dying...
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14230 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 8:06 pm to
[quote]When a liberal media is telling people to stop Praying... Chris Mathews "It should be outlawed"/quote]

You post this isolated portion of a quote as an invitation so that all the baws can come on here and have a group lament.

Mathews full quote was "It should be outlawed, I know it may be well intended in some cases, but usually it's some throwaway line by some staffer..."

He wasn't making a negative comment about prayer. He was commenting on how frequently that phrase has to be, and has been used recently, and how it's overuse has diminished its value.

Save your histrionics for when they are actually warranted.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12464 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 8:25 pm to
The Bible warned us of this.
Good shall be called evil and evil shall be called good.

We are there now

And men would be lovers of self. And men would lust after men and women would lust after women. He said that it would be like the days of Noah. We are headed to being Sodom and Gomorrah all over again. God hasn't changed His mind. He warned us then and now.
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