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re: so media is saying the video disproves Ahmad was a burglar

Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:24 am to
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:24 am to
My point is that someone who might be casing to steal something would not actually steal something and carry it on his person if he thought he had been made and was being pursued and his movements were being tracked.

That was in response to “why were no stolen items found?”

What would anyone with an IQ over 85 do? If it were me, I would bug out of the area and attempt to appear like I was doing something normal because I would expect the cops to be rolling up any minute. I would want them to see me jogging at a normal pace. I would use that as my reasonable explanation once questioned.

My gut tells me that the guy was snooping around and was aware that he drew attention. Once he knew that he had been made, he actres exactly as I would have. Get away from the area and look like I am engaging in a normal activity. The father/son hillbilly duo determined they were going to insure that he didn’t vanish before the cops arrived. They thought they were going to box him in and citizen arrest him at gunpoint. The murdered kid was in a panic mode as he was trying to evade the duo. In a split second, he went into fight or flight mode when they barricaded him. The duo never expected him to fight. They thought that he would stop and be held at gunpoint until the cops arrived. A gross miscalculation. The father saw his son suddenly in a fight for life and acted to protect his son. I can almost guarantee this is what will come out.

Nonetheless, it is either murder or manslaughter.It was not driven by racism but by shortsightedness and an abundance of rash thinking where the duo did not think through the potential reaction of the deceased.
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 1:26 am
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19272 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:38 am to
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the video shows them chasing


I didn't see that video. You can make assumptions in that video but no one can watch the 30 seconds I saw and come to any conclusion about what happened, how it started or how the scuffle with the gun began.

Are the guys bad guys and the jogger a good guy. Maybe, maybe not. The video does not answer any of those questions. To say it does it just stirring up hype.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20298 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Where is the stolen stuff?

I don't believe they are saying he was in process of committing a burglary. Aren't they claiming they believe he was the man burglarizing the area? Regardless, they used piss-poor judgement and as a result a man is dead. The son at least is gonna go down for aggravated manslaughter. The dad maybe a lesser charge since he did not pull a weapon.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10395 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:48 am to
quote:

The dad maybe a lesser charge since he did not pull a weapon.

Doesn’t he have a gun pulled when he hops out of the bed of the truck?
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11259 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:52 am to
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Well, I’ll add that no burglary was reported that day.



Well that definitely proves no burglary took place as they are always reported instantly.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126001 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:53 am to
Nothing in that video (albeit brief) demonstrates the need to use deadly force to detain him. Nothing.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20298 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:38 pm to
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Doesn’t he have a gun pulled when he hops out of the bed of the truck?

Actually I don't recall. I was focused on the son and the shotgun. Regardless he didn't fire his weapon. For all we know he may have been yelling at his son, "don't shoot." Not likely, but that'd be my story.
Posted by Brannigans_Law
Member since Mar 2020
74 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 3:43 pm to
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I didn't see that video. You can make assumptions in that video but no one can watch the 30 seconds I saw and come to any conclusion about what happened, how it started or how the scuffle with the gun began.

Are the guys bad guys and the jogger a good guy. Maybe, maybe not. The video does not answer any of those questions. To say it does it just stirring up hype.




some of us know who the bad guy is and who the good guys are simple math really.
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