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So let me get this straight...

Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:51 am
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1031 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:51 am
Every MAGA candidate this cycle lost because of "fraud". It had absolutely nothing to do with Trump's unpopularity, right? Even while GOP candidates not affiliated with Trump did very well, even in blue areas like New York and California? So, let's see:

Kari Lake: Lost

Blake Masters: Lost (Despite GOP congressional candidates doing well and flipping two dem seats in Arizona)

Herschel Walker: Lost

Dr. Oz: Lost (Perhaps because he was obviously a fraud, though John Fetterman is brain damaged and should not have won)

Doug Mastriano: Lost (Because he was a schizo candidate in a democrat-leaning swing state. Friendly reminder that Pennsylvania is not Oklahoma. Maybe a more moderate candidate would have done better)

Tudor Dixon: Lost (in what should have been an easy win considering how terrible Gretchen Whitmer is)

John Gibbs: Lost (after Trump primaried out Peter Meijer, who was 'not MAGA enough'. I'm sure the democrat taking his place will be much better for conservatives!)

Joe Kent: Lost (In an R+11 district, because once again, Trump had to primary out a moderate republican who was 'not maga enough')

Lauren Boebert: Almost lost an R+13 district. Nice going.

Don't forget Wisconsin! Rebecca Kleefisch could easily have beaten Tony Evers, but no, we had to nominate Tim Michels, whose only credential was sucking up to Trump. He lost too!

J.D. Vance: Only won by 6 points while Mike DeWine, the GOP governor, won by 25 points. (I'm sure Trump not endorsing DeWine and holding rallies for Vance had absolutely nothing to do with this discrepancy!)

I know most will call me a GOPe shill, etc. That's fine. But the evidence is clear as day: Trump is unelectable. It is time for him to pack it in. He probably won't win a primary at this point--all of the latest polls have him behind DeSantis.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49181 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:54 am to
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Doug Mastriano: Lost (Because he was a schizo candidate in a democrat-leaning swing state. Friendly reminder that Pennsylvania is not Oklahoma. Maybe a more moderate candidate would have done better)


Something a whole lot of people here, and Trump, need to understand.

Good list.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8966 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:54 am to
If he won't win, why are you upset..let him fail.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30587 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:54 am to
Probably wouldn’t have been as close without Trump’s endorsement.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79068 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Kari Lake: Lost


You're a fool if you bleedat.

quote:

Herschel Walker: Lost


Uh whats the election in December then?

quote:

I know most will call me a GOPe shill


GOPe cuck
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9292 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:57 am to
If Trump sucks so much, you've got nothing to worry about. He'll lose in the primary to BDR right?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53455 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:58 am to
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So let me get this straight...



I really wish you would get it straight. So far, nothing I read was.


Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:59 am to
quote:

I know most will call me a GOPe shill, etc. That's fine. But the evidence is clear as day: Trump is unelectable. It is time for him to pack it in. He probably won't win a primary at this point--all of the latest polls have him behind DeSantis.



OK pussy.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9639 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:59 am to
Paul Ryan and ole Mitch thank you for your service
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6463 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:00 am to
Was Trump on the ballot anywhere?

Didn't Desantis endorse these same people?

Why is it Trump's fault alone?

Didn't Desantis endorse the guy running in Colorado who Trump called a loser.

The loser was crushed.

The election was Trump's fault is a carefully crafted narrative.

The people crafting the narrative undermined the candidates chosen by REPUBLICAN VOTERS.

That seems a bigger issue.

Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:00 am to
Pollsters went the opposite way of 2016 and overestimated the conservative vote pretty much nation-wide. Or at the very least under-estimated the impact the abortion issue would have in getting single women to vote (they won many of these elections for Dems). Maybe a bit of both.

Like Ben Shapiro said, crazy people lost, sane conservatives won fairly comfortably. JD Vance struck a good balance between looking like a smart, put together individual ready for the position he was running for and being MAGA. If you took the parties out of the issue... who is voting for Herschel or Oz? Literally no one.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71549 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:01 am to
quote:

It is time for him to pack it in.


They're never going to get that. He has them convinced that he's the only one who can save us all from...well, something.

Their strategy is to force Trump and Trump loyalists on the rest of us, and then blame everyone else when they lose.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27117 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:01 am to
quote:

He probably won't win a primary at this point-


Ok, then why are you so worried and coming with a laundry list of stuff trying to convince folks Trump is not electable...
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Was Trump on the ballot anywhere?


When candidates run ads about how much Trump likes them and they like Trump, and their opponents run ads about how the GOP candidate is a crazy Trumper, Trump is absolutely on the ballot.

DeSantis was actually on the ballot and had a historic win in a purple-ish state.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:03 am to
quote:

a laundry list of stuff trying to convince folks Trump is not electable...


2018 mid terms
2020 election
2022 mid terms

Is that not enough? The country at large doesn't like "trumpism" and has told us so over the span of 3 election cycles now.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67833 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:03 am to
It'll all sort out.

Don't worry.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:04 am to
quote:

They're never going to get that. He has them convinced that he's the only one who can save us all from...well, something.



Hey dumb boy!

He already saved our border and your hero Pedophile Joe destroyed that.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112456 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:04 am to
It's extremely easy to determine if Trump was the reason the GOP didn't win more.
Read the news. The MSM headlines were filled with 'Trump Causes GOP candidates to lose.'

The MSM always lies. They are the perfect reverse barometer of truth. Therefore, Trump had nothing to do with the losses.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27117 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:04 am to
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Is that not enough?


Reading comprehension is not your cup of tea, huh?

Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:05 am to
You said he is "coming up with a laundry list of why he isn't electable"

You don't have to come up with anything. The list is right there if you choose to see it

Is reading comprehension your cup of tea?
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