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re: So, is Ebola Still Airborne?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:22 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:22 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
I know you were probably trying to go with a 'gotcha' and claim something about droplet transmission being airborne, but it's not.
You need to post more...most of these guys here are confused by actual science...
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:24 pm to AUbused
The issue has conspicuously disappeared from this board.
That's the beauty of anonymous, ignorant claims about the world we live in. There is no accountability to be found. Not one single person here who claimed ebola was airborne will ever admit they were wrong.
That's the beauty of anonymous, ignorant claims about the world we live in. There is no accountability to be found. Not one single person here who claimed ebola was airborne will ever admit they were wrong.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:44 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Wrong!
Airborne transmission is defined
Airborne transmission is transmission via air.
I suspect the OP hasn't the slightest clue as to WTF he's addressing. But since you chimed in, what is he intimating?
(1) Is he saying there was some substantial contingent holding Ebola spread like influenza?
or
(2) Is he saying a healthcare worker in an Ebola patient's room cannot contract the disease via the air?
Take your time.
Please
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:13 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Wrong!
Airborne transmission is transmission via air.
I suspect the OP hasn't the slightest clue as to WTF he's addressing. But since you chimed in, what is he intimating?
(1) Is he saying there was some substantial contingent holding Ebola spread like influenza?
or
(2) Is he saying a healthcare worker in an Ebola patient's room cannot contract the disease via the air?
Take your time.
Please
Ah and the other ebola chicken has returned to the roost.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:16 pm to asurob1
quote:Beat me to it.
Ah and the other ebola chicken has returned to the roost.
But for this guy it's personal. Some sort of nursing thing. 
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:17 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Airborne transmission is transmission via air.
No, it's what I defined above. You're taking a very specific definition in the context of infectious diseases and trying to apply it to an incorrect understanding of disease transmission.
quote:
(1) Is he saying there was some substantial contingent holding Ebola spread like influenza?
or
(2) Is he saying a healthcare worker in an Ebola patient's room cannot contract the disease via the air?
(1) There is/was a substantial contingent, both on this board and out in the wide world, who incorrectly presumed Ebola was capable of airborne transmission. I would liken their characterization as more akin to TB or chickenpox, since only H5N1 influenza is airborne - H1N1, H3N2, and most others are merely droplet-based transmission.
(2) Again, you're misrepresenting the different types of transmission and level of precautions required. While it is plausible that an exposure could occur through a heavy expulsion of droplets (sneezing/vomiting/etc), and that exposure could result in an active infection, that doesn't mean it's airborne. It still requires direct contact of live, non-dries viral particles directly in contact with a mucous membrane or broken skin. So it would be correct to say that you cannot contract the disease via the air - only the droplets which exist for a short time in the air as a result of expulsion.
quote:
Take your time.
We've had to explain this every day for over 3 months, it's not hard! Just stop fear-mongering.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:18 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Airborne transmission is transmission via air.
Incorrect
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:18 pm to asurob1
quote:Good!
Ah and the other ebola chicken has returned to the roost.
Well done!
Now then, let's talk "chickens" . . . Care to answer the question in the post you chose to respond to . . . cluck . . . cluck . . . cluck ?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:21 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Is he saying there was some substantial contingent holding Ebola spread like influenza?
Yes, let's not pretend like those frantically claiming ebola had become airborne have a firm biological foundation with which they were basing their opinions on. The majority of people talking about airborne transmission had the flu/cold in mind when repeating the talking points they heard on the nightly news.
quote:
Is he saying a healthcare worker in an Ebola patient's room cannot contract the disease via the air?
You could also technically contract HIV and Hep C via "the air", that doesn't make them airborne.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Careful there Hoss.
Airborne transmission is transmission via air.
Incorrect
I like you, but let's be crystal clear.
We are not defining airborne viri here.
If a virus is transmitted from a host 10-20 feet away, what is the mechanism of transmission?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:25 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
If a virus is transmitted from a host 10-20 feet away, what is the mechanism of transmission?
The answer is it depends. Someone with HIV can bite their tongue, spit blood at you from across the room and you could theoretically contract the disease under the right circumstances. That doesnt change the fact that it's mechanism of transmission is blood borne.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:26 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
If a virus is transmitted from a host 10-20 feet away, what is the mechanism of transmission?
That's an interesting question.
Did a mosquito drink the blood of the host and then pass it onto the new host? That would make it vector transmission.
Was it transmitted because the newly-infected individual touched a contaminated blanket/towel? That would make it bloodborne transmission.
Did the patient sneeze/cough/vomit, and the droplets made their way to the new individual? That would be droplet.
In the case of ebola, only B or C are possible routes. What you're trying to say, that ebola is airborne like TB is airborne, is wrong. That's why negative-pressure rooms aren't required.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:28 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Probably figured you were inebreated when posting. Honestly, that was all over the place. But if you have a specific question, I'm more than happy to answer.
I'm still waiting for your response to this post, over a week later. But alright.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:28 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
What you're trying to say, that ebola is airborne like TB is airborne, is wrong. That's why negative-pressure rooms aren't required.
This is correct
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:30 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Honestly, that was all over the place. But if you have a specific question, I'm more than happy to answer.
Sure. You asked for one instance of a peer-reviewed study which showed travel restrictions would not stop the spread of a pandemic, and I provided six.
My question: Do you still believe that your position (that travel bans stop pandemics) is correct, in light of overwhelming evidence to the contrary?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:30 pm to AUbused
If you like your plan you can keep it.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:30 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Let's make it a bit more simple for the assholes then. What is the RESPIRATORY PROTECTION USED AT EMORY IN EBOLA TREATMENT?
Did a mosquito drink the blood of the host and then pass it onto the new host? That would make it vector transmission.
Please take your time.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:36 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I have never posted that: (a) Ebola was a pandemic threat to the US, and (b) that travel bans stop pandemics.
Do you still believe that your position (that travel bans stop pandemics)
However, now that we've narrowed this to specifics, please post links to ANYthing you feel I've posted to the contrary.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:38 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
I've always wondered, how are 'shameful' and 'shameless' basically synonyms?
A person is shameless while an action is shameful. The shameless person who commits a shameful act should probably feel ashamed but does not.
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