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re: So I was listening to Tony Aguilar on Tucker, and I am wondering about military disability

Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8504 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:21 pm to
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Military disability is the most absurdly abused government assistance program that has ever existed.


Only if the program allows the abuse.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53758 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:25 pm to
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So I went from listening about Gaza to wondering how this guy is possibly abusing the system. I mean if you are 100% disabled from the military, God bless you! But if you are claiming 100% disability and then headed to a combat zone, even as an aid worker, then that sounds sketchy. Can anyone help cla


I pull into CVS earlier this week and there's a lifted Chevy 2500 High Country with a disabled hang tag and I'm thinking, what disabled person is hauling there arse in and out of a lifted Chevy High Country. I'm in decent shape for 66 years old but I would have to seriously think about that truck height being just a bit much. My guess it was some abled bodied person using someone else's disabled hang tag because they're too lazy to walk 50 ft to the front door of CVS.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3448 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:32 pm to
LINK

Found this article and holy smokes…
We are paying $200 billion/year more than we should be based on historical trends
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3671 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:38 pm to
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We are paying $200 billion/year more than we should be based on historical trends

I believe it. There's money in "advising" veterans how to get as many ratings as possible so they can get their 100%. I say "their 100%" because many believe that is what is owed no matter what their actual medical issues are. They post things on the Facebook groups asking what they can claim that can't be tested for, and sure enough, people tell them. Some people charge for these services. I call it out when I see it because it's a shame. There are veterans that really need the help and they have to wait years for their VA disability claims to get processed due to the sheer number of claims out there.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8048 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 4:14 pm to
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I believe it. There's money in "advising" veterans how to get as many ratings as possible so they can get their 100%. I say "their 100%" because many believe that is what is owed no matter what their actual medical issues are. They post things on the Facebook groups asking what they can claim that can't be tested for, and sure enough, people tell them. Some people charge for these services. I call it out when I see it because it's a shame. There are veterans that really need the help and they have to wait years for their VA disability claims to get processed due to the sheer number of claims out there.

I want to be your dear friend.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2075 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 4:18 pm to
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Everybody that gets out of the military has a some type of service related disability


That is patently false, only 30% of us have service connected disability ratings
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2075 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 4:24 pm to
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Also, depending on the type of VA disability you receive, you can work in the private sector and there is no income limit to keep receiving your payments.


The rating isn’t based on one’s ability to work, it’s a rating based how it impacts our quality of life. I was deployed to Afghanistan in 2004-5 and over arching impact it had on me were caused by the burn pits. That has caused various illnesses that have reduced my quality of life which will likely end in me dying earlier
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7716 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 4:30 pm to
We spend $300billion per year on veterans administration.

That's more than any country on EARTH spends on defense.

There's a ton of "Disability" abuse.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37523 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 5:29 pm to
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But it just seemed odd to me that this guy is going on the national circuit drawing attention to himself… while talking about his 100% disability at his new job in a combat zone. Like it seems brazen, but maybe this is normal
Most of the confusion comes from people [understandably] equating SSDI and SSI with VA compensation when they differ significantly in both practice and mission. VA disability is non means-tested, usually doesn't have any work restrictions, and focuses on a "compensation" based model for service-related conditions. Sort of a "we broke it, we buy it" model.

Whereas SSI, for example, operates on a welfare oriented model, providing income to individuals with disabilities that prevent gainful employment/activity, enforcing asset and income limits that can reduce or eliminate benefits if earnings exceed them which is why veterans can maintain employment without jeopardizing VA payments, unlike the disincentives in civilian programs.

Fraud occurs and you are still free to oppose VA compensation but it differs from civilian disability in fundamental ways and simply having a job (even a physically demanding one) doesn't, by itself, signal fraud under the VA system.
Posted by LSUHeights
Member since Jan 2010
619 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:03 pm to
Just spoke to a guy yesterday who was in Tony's West Point class. He had no idea he has been on the news recently.

His classmate told me he is hardcore and that Tony ain't lying when I told him Tony said he was a combat leader on multiple deployments.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31464 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:05 pm to
It’s disgusting.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Member since Oct 2014
1948 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 7:18 pm to
So basically you can join, break your toe, and get a fat check for life.

Not that much different than a welfare queen.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8048 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Most of the confusion comes from people [understandably] equating SSDI and SSI with VA compensation when they differ significantly in both practice and mission. VA disability is non means-tested, usually doesn't have any work restrictions, and focuses on a "compensation" based model for service-related conditions. Sort of a "we broke it, we buy it" model. Whereas SSI, for example, operates on a welfare oriented model, providing income to individuals with disabilities that prevent gainful employment/activity, enforcing asset and income limits that can reduce or eliminate benefits if earnings exceed them which is why veterans can maintain employment without jeopardizing VA payments, unlike the disincentives in civilian programs. Fraud occurs and you are still free to oppose VA compensation but it differs from civilian disability in fundamental ways and simply having a job (even a physically demanding one) doesn't, by itself, signal fraud under the VA system.

Ohh ok. Now I understand why vets with 100% disability have better Murph and Fran times than me
Posted by SemiNoblePursuit
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
2150 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:41 pm to
We live in a society that worships veterans while simultaneously resenting them
Posted by scottyd
Member since Dec 2014
610 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:46 pm to
This guy is a grifter. He beat his wife and put her in the hospital, lied about having a silver star and lied about other awards. Then threatened his employer after being fired for beating his wife. He is a piece of shite.

I love Tucker but he screwed the pooch in this one.
Posted by scottyd
Member since Dec 2014
610 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:48 pm to
He also lied about adopting two kids with disabilities.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7077 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:58 pm to
You’ll really be mad when you see how many police officers are on 100% disability from the military but can work as a patrol officer jusssst fine. Including sitting in a construction zone or at the library for $50 bucks an hour for a detail.
Posted by geauxtigahhhs
Member since Jun 2025
1109 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:14 pm to
I work with 3 people that receive at least 80% disability from the military, meaning they are receiving $3k+ of non taxed monthly income. The one on 100% gets $4k/month. All of these guys did a 1 year tour and did not experience real combat. None of them are disabled in the slightest and they all work manual labor.

It’s apparently so easy that there is a market for coaching people looking to join the military specifically to get on disability and receive free income for life.These coaches provide a script for a percentage of the monthly benefits their clients end up receiving. As soon as these people get off the bus at boot camp the script starts and they immediately start reporting injuries or trauma to get a paper trail going. These scripts are so strong and so many issues need absolutely zero proof and are guaranteed to make them eligible for disability that there are many people sitting on their couch receiving a free ride when they never stepped foot in a foreign country or even joined a unit after bootcamp.

It’s a tough conversation because people want to chastise you for “attacking servicemen” when you bring it up but it absolutely needs to be audited and restructured immediately. I believe disability pensions are a pretty big percentage of our military budget.
Posted by geauxtigahhhs
Member since Jun 2025
1109 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:16 pm to
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You’ll really be mad when you see how many police officers are on 100% disability from the military but can work as a patrol officer jusssst fine. Including sitting in a construction zone or at the library for $50 bucks an hour for a detail.

Same with firemen. Military disability is not like the normal disability where if you get caught working you lose it. You can work manual labor while on 100% military disability. I was absolutely floored when I found out about this
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7716 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:30 pm to
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it's a "tough conversation"


It is.
Because, people are fricking dumb and cannot comprehend numbers.

At $300 billion that's 3 million people taking $100k /year.

That's insane .

I'd bet there's under 50k ppl amputation etc from military in the US.
Especially with WW2 guys almost all dead.

How many have legit ptsd etc from kicking doors in in Fallujah or Vietnam etc?

My baw got hit by IED in Afghanistan.
Buddies died.
He was saying his PTSD rehab was 90% people who never got so much as shite at.

System needs an audit.

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