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re: So I was listening to Tony Aguilar on Tucker, and I am wondering about military disability

Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:20 am to
Posted by BeefSupreme
Metairie
Member since Sep 2016
556 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:20 am to
I'm not defending the abuse, but aren't there 1,000 other areas of government fraud, waste , and abuse that we can focus on first?
There are a lot of "I almost served" bros that feel a sense of shame for not serving that allow the shame to manifest in lashing out at veterans.
I'm not talking about anyone in here specifically.
It's just something that I've observed.

In before: "I can focus on more than one thing at a time." and "Sorry your a poor and had to join the Army."

It was ackshually to keep myself out.of jail.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8054 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:26 am to
Everyone's cow is sacred
Posted by bayouteche
The Beaches of Wham Brake
Member since Nov 2012
1702 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:07 am to
You can get 100% VA for cannabis abuse disorder.

Let that sink in.

Also, depending on the type of VA disability you receive, you can work in the private sector and there is no income limit to keep receiving your payments.

Both are head scratchers.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:07 am to
My 2nd cousin was denied 100% disability until just before he died. He had been pursuing it for 20+ years.

Apparently hearing voices telling him to kill every woman he meets is enough for a discharge but it is not disabling.

The only reason he had a pt job as a bagger at the grocery store was because he was a local in an area where the population is like 1500 including infants and the elderly. The store would hold his job for him to return after up to several months of being committed to various VA psych wards.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116746 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:21 am to
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Everybody that gets out of the military has a some type of service related disability

I've encountered some people who got disability totally unrelated to combat service. One friend of mine served twenty years with no combat but gets disability because somebody spilled some toxic gas near him and he breathed it in. He's breathing fine now but he gets the benefit for life.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8054 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:28 am to
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My 2nd cousin was denied 100% disability until just before he died. He had been pursuing it for 20+ years.

Apparently hearing voices telling him to kill every woman he meets is enough for a discharge but it is not disabling.

The only reason he had a pt job as a bagger at the grocery store was because he was a local in an area where the population is like 1500 including infants and the elderly. The store would hold his job for him to return after up to several months of being committed to various VA psych wards.

i would love to hear the story of how it's the military's fault that your batshit crazy cousin is telling women he wants to kill them.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8054 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:31 am to
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I've encountered some people who got disability totally unrelated to combat service. One friend of mine served twenty years with no combat but gets disability because somebody spilled some toxic gas near him and he breathed it in. He's breathing fine now but he gets the benefit for life.

well the disability doesnt have to be combat related, it just has to be service related. so in the scenario you've given, that's a legitimate claim IF he has an actual disability. sounds like he doesnt though.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23050 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:33 am to
I do know a few who probably are physically fit but are definitely emotionally/mentally messed up from stuff they were exposed to oversees.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3451 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:34 am to
Oh I definitely agree there are bigger fish to fry. I and I am not even advocating for me investigating all these former soldiers. They deserve the benefit of the doubt. But it just seemed odd to me that this guy is going on the national circuit drawing attention to himself… while talking about his 100% disability at his new job in a combat zone. Like it seems brazen, but maybe this is normal
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8054 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:36 am to
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They deserve the benefit of the doubt.

why?
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3451 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:39 am to
Because they served in a combat zone. Literally the most difficult thing a country asks its citizens to do
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8054 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:45 am to
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Because they served in a combat zone. Literally the most difficult thing a country asks its citizens to do

the percentage of people who served in a combat zone who were ever actually in any sort of mortal danger is tiny. vets throw out phrases like "served in an active combat zone" or "combat veteran" because it sounds good to people who dont know the difference, but for the vast majority of "combat vets", it just means they sat on a FOB somewhere completely safe.

a beat police officer is in more danger in his day to day job than your average "combat" vet who never heard a shot fired in anger.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3673 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:52 am to
VA disability ratings are a combined rating from your various, service-connected disabilities. These individual disabilities can be rated anywhere from 0% to 100%, but it’s rare to have a single, 100% rating.

VA math isn’t difficult to understand either, it’s just math. You can’t use 2, 50% off coupons to get a free item at the store. So you have to think of it like that. If you have a 50% rating, then 50% of you is still good. If you get a 20% rating next, it’s 20% of the remaining 50% and so on. VA rounds the overall rating using normal rounding rules. If you are 95% or up, you are rounded to 100% overall. Ratings can move up or down over time if you get better or worse. Unless you are given Permanent and Total disability status, your conditions get reviewed every 3-5 years.

It takes a lot to get to 100%, but many people get there based on having everything documented in their medical records with an actual diagnosis. You can’t think of disability in the way most people do, either. Pain is a disability (usually rated 10%, and you can’t test for that), painful scars are a disability, sleep apnea (50% rating if a CPAP is required) is a disability, tinnitus is a disability (10% rating), eczema is a disability, and so on. Essentially, most medical conditions are considered a disability of some sort. Taking that into consideration, you can begin to see how people get 90-100% ratings. Are they disabled in the normal sense of what we consider, no, but many are.

This post was edited on 8/8/25 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19997 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:59 am to
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Everybody that gets out of the military has a some type of service related disability


Wut.
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
2181 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:16 pm to
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I mean if you are 100% disabled from the military, God bless you! But if you are claiming 100% disability


My ex-brother in-law just finished up his disability fraud claim. He has a torn ligament or something in his knee. The military was going to pay for the surgery. Instead, he denied the surgery so that he can get disability an leave the military. He was in signals intelligence, so I assume it was not the most physically demanding job.

Now he'll get a check for the rest of his life. He's going back to school, paid for by the gov, and taking the minimum amount of classes because they also pay him I think $3,000 a month while he's in school.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:18 pm to
Military disability is the most absurdly abused government assistance program that has ever existed.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154688 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:20 pm to
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ETA: She is far from disabled. Had her knee scoped and now does kickboxing, hiking, and all sorts of recreational sports.


Prosecute and punish.

Skin all lawyers helping in the fraud.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3451 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:16 pm to
Jesus
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9825 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:19 pm to
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Also, depending on the type of VA disability you receive, you can work in the private sector and there is no income limit to keep receiving your payments.



VA disability is not the same as SSDI. One is for damages incurred during services rendered while the other is for people who cannot work.

Some dude who killed a dozen people, saw 3 friends die, and another 2 friends lose legs is perfectly capable of working in the private sector. He also deserves compensation for the PTSD he earned serving his country which will stick with him until his dying day.

All that said, there's definitely abuse these days. When I got out in the late 90's, no one talked about getting full physicals before separation or immediately heading over to the VA to file for disability for every ache and pain you have. Today? That's exactly what these young people are doing. They're going to have to change the rules as the word is out now amongst those currently serving. Each one of them separating honorably will likely file claims.
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8512 posts
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:20 pm to
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I am wondering about military disability


Be careful!
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