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re: So I was born in the late 90s and consider myself to be pretty liberal...

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Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:53 pm to
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So I was born in the late 90s and consider myself to be pretty liberal...

I was born in the early 80s and consider myself to be pretty conservative
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:03 pm to
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Where did OP go?


Back in here; I really only had one question about why the tax bill was supported by those that it might hurt. I got my answer. Y'all (those that make enough, i assume) just feel like yall already pay enough. Good enough answer for me, I guess, without getting into how it affects other people. But this is the party of no safety nets and personal responsibility so theres no point of traveling down that road.


I also just want to challenge the idea that private entities always handle funds better. Most just worry about their bottom line.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:04 pm to
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I also just want to challenge the idea that private entities always handle funds better.
It's their money to manage or mismanage. Really don't see what's so difficult to understand.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:05 pm to
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can anyone convince me why this tax bill is a good thing in any way?


$4300 in savings for me in the senate version.

Even more in the house version.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:06 pm to
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I also just want to challenge the idea that private entities always handle funds better.


Oh...I think I see the problem here. This is a concern troll thread.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:08 pm to
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I really only had one question about why the tax bill was supported by those that it might hurt. I got my answer.
Apparently not

You seem to assume a great deal here.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:08 pm to
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I also just want to challenge the idea that private entities always handle funds better. Most just worry about their bottom line.


In economics, the bottom line is usually determined by how well you handle funds.

In government, layers of bureaucrats built mansions in Fairfax county
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2482 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:10 pm to
I never said it wasnt; but I'd rather things like food, infrastructure (or a mix of public and private), health care... just some things outside of basic national security be regulated by people accountable to the public instead of shareholders.
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Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:12 pm to
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Message So I was born in the late 90s and consider myself to be pretty liberal... by 337Tiger19



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I’m about to graduate from LSU with a next December with degree in Poli Sci and a concentration in Government and Policy and sights on a tier one law school, and for the life of me, I can’t understand this. Forgive my naivety on conservative policy, but can anyone convince me why this tax bill is a good thing in any way?




Given that you like have never are unlikely to ever work for a living that didn't involve sucking up taxpayer money I'm sure you see it as pure evil.

For those that work it's awesome. Get a real job and I'm sure you will understand
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2482 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:12 pm to
Speaking to every honest reply except than yours. They made sense. I can see your perspective. You were more substantive.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 5:15 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:14 pm to
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I also just want to challenge the idea that private entities always handle funds better
Accountability is the key.

In the vast majority of cases, competition, reimbursement, and accountability in the private sector far exceed those qualities in the public sector.

The saying "close enough for government work" has come to acknowledge the distinction.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:16 pm to
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be regulated by people accountable to the public instead of shareholders.


How they doing so far?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:17 pm to
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But this is the party of no safety nets and personal responsibility so theres no point of traveling down that road. 


What???
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
2031 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:22 pm to
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help people, not use math and physics on a computer to find new ways to mess the planet up. I guess that's really hard to understand.


Then be a social worker, a Dr, etc...
Seriously man. There is so much I want to respond to in your posts, but it's just not worth going after it all.

You don't believe it now, but your current view of the world is very narrow and as you gain more life experiences you'll begin to appreciate what some are trying to tell you here, at least the ones without insults wrapped in. It boils down to an a distrust of government in any capacity and giving them less of your own money is always a good thing.
Add in a fairly good chance the economy will take back off due to bring the corporate tax rate to a global average, and you SHOULD be able see the reason for optimism.

Those that can't see it, in my mind, don't WANT to see it.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139042 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:25 pm to
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They made sense. I can see your perspective. You were more substantive.
Good.

When (if) you end up in advocacy, give Daniel Moynihan's treatise written in 1965 a long hard read. Moynihan was a brilliant (and liberal) fellow. His report foretold failure of the War on Poverty. Over half a century later, we've not changed tack. Given our national capacity, that 50-yr failure is a societal atrocity.

I'll leave you to your own view as to alternatives in approach. But as Einstein said, "Doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results is the definition of insanity." In terms of the WOP, we need to end the insanity!
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35333 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:30 pm to
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So you're leaving the state?


Ouch. Tulane was 20-something when I applied. Dropped a few the year I started.

I remember when Bama pushed us out of top-50. That was hard to swallow, just like watching the slow painful water torture deaths in LSU football for the past 6 years.

I should have shorted my law degree.

ETA: I just checked US News and Tulane is at 50. Maybe if they can continue jacking up their affirmative action admissions and if NO can take down a few more monuments, that'll improve. Smh
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14307 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:30 pm to
Enjoy family law... the truck nuts crew will help you repay that 100g debt while working 60 hr weeks being a partners gofer b$tch down in Bastrop!
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10511 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:58 pm to
Just a heads up, none of use including you, have to pay the exact amount of taxes due to the U.S. government. (YOU) can pay more just out of the goodness of your heart and because you think they are doing such a great job in the distribution of our tax dollars.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:17 pm to
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I also just want to challenge the idea that private entities always handle funds better. Most just worry about their bottom line.



They worry about their bottom line because they're accountable to the shareholders.

The bureaucracy, which crafts the overwhelming majority of regulations, is accountable to no one. In fact the bureaucracy is incentivized to always expand their power and spend more money.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:20 pm to
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born in the late 90s



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graduate from LSU with a next December




Yeah thanks for making us all feel old. Voted down.
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