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re: So, Google "Idiot" And A Photo of Donald Trump Pops Up
Posted on 12/15/18 at 7:57 pm to KCT
Posted on 12/15/18 at 7:57 pm to KCT
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Buckeye Vol - Honest question ( or two) for you, and this has nothing to do with how you feel about me.
1) Can you honestly say that you can't see the Far Left ideology which permeates these social media platforms?
2) Can you honestly say that they don't have an anti-Conservative agenda?
3) If you do see it, why doesn't it bother you? Isn't it wrong, regardless of which group is targeted?
Buckeye - Not that I have high expectations when it comes to you, but let it be duly noted that you failed to respond to these questions that I posted 2 pages ago. You have posted subsequent to my initial post on this, so I know you saw it.
So, what does that mean? It means that, as usual, you only participated in this thread to troll me and falsely impugn my character. Because when given the chance TWICE to weigh in on the actual subject of this thread, you bailed.
As I have already stated, it is duly noted. Sometimes I wonder why more people here aren't able to make a distinction between genuine posters and those who mostly just like to troll, but I guess I'll figure that out one of these days.
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Posted on 12/15/18 at 8:21 pm to i am dan
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Now this is really funny coming from the side that bans speakers with conservative viewpoints at universities.
Why do you think I sympathize with doing that? You will not find a single post I've made saying I agree with that.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 9:02 pm to foshizzle
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foshizzle
I don't know which is uglier, your av or your debating skills.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:00 am to KCT
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People who don't think that these Silicon Valley boobs (hope that description doesn't bother FT's virtue-signalling brain) are manipulating EVERYTHING to fit their AGENDA are blind
We're not blind, we just don't see shite that isn't there.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:09 am to KCT
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I never said he wasn't educated. I'm saying he's an anti-American, conservative-hating POS.
1. It's kind of hard to label someone who exploits capitalism to its fullest as "anti-American".
2. Hating conservatives kind of goes hand-in-hand with being educated.
In case it wasn't clear, #2 was a joke.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:41 am to KCT
Buckeye didn't answer, but I guess I will...
quote:I don't, but I would guess that you and I differ in how we define "far left".
1) Can you honestly say that you can't see the Far Left ideology which permeates these social media platforms?
quote:It's quite clear that "make as much money as possible" is at the top of a very short list of high-level agenda items.
2) Can you honestly say that they don't have an anti-Conservative agenda?
quote:If there are actions taken based on some sort of bias, I can assure you that it is done in pursuit of more money. How can you blame them for that? That is their sole reason to exist.
3) If you do see it, why doesn't it bother you? Isn't it wrong, regardless of which group is targeted?
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:44 am to LordSaintly
quote:quote:If true, then I’m very surprised that their algorithm is that easy to trick. Years ago, they would automatically decrease the relevance of websites that did stuff like this.
As for the idiot image, that is an easy hack. During the 2016 election r/the_donald and the chans would have it weekly. Search pedophile and you get a picture of Podesta. Search rapist and you get a picture of Bill Clinton. Search crooked and you get a picture of Hillary.
It's not that it's easy to "trick", it's just a matter of gaming low-volume searches. If anything, it's an indication that there are no biases in the algorithm for these search terms.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:19 am to KCT
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If you don't know how biased Google/YouTube is against white people, Christians, and conservatives, then I can't help you.
quote:That was Sergey Brin, who said he was "deeply offended" by the election results. And can you blame him? He, along with many Google employees, is an immigrant. His family came here as refugees from the Soviet Union in the 70s, and the US welcomed them and allowed them to build a life even though they were from our #1 enemy at the time. And Trump won on an anti-immigration, fear-mongering platform.
There actually was a speech by a Google executive, which was a meltdown of epic proportions, right after Trump won the presidency. He was addressing the employees, who were very receptive to every Alt-Left word that came out of his mouth.
quote:Here it is. (imagine that)
I did a search, but didn't see where it was still on YouTube (imagine that).
quote:What will it take for you to realize how delusional you are? Why can't you see that what you call "far left" is actually ALL of the left, and probably even some of the center-right? You think all of the major social media platforms, traditional media, and the majority of the developed world are "far left" or "alt-left". At what fricking point will you realize that it's actually you who exists in a far right bubble?
Bottom-line - If you really don't know how Alt-Left these social media platforms are, then God bless you. You must exist in one helluva Far Left bubble.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:22 am to BBONDS25
quote:quote:You say that to the brown guy? Racist a hole.
I own you.
Nobody gives a shite what color you are or how easily offended you are.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:13 am to Korkstand
quote:In a corporate sense?
but I would guess that you and I differ in how we define "far left".
Far left, for example, would be a culture forcing dismissal of someone like James Damore for issuing a logical, evidence-based response to a corporate questionnaire which did not jibe with leftist PC.
Far left would be a culture in that same company allowing and encouraging open discussion ways to suppress conservative search results, while advancing liberal ones.
Far left would be a company comprised of employees throughout who feel brazenly emboldened to openly support Democrat causes and candidates and at the same time be openly, malignantly critical of anyone supporting the GOP.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 4:24 am to Korkstand
quote:Sorry Kork, that is simply false.
Why can't you see that what you call "far left" is actually ALL of the left, and probably even some of the center-right?
It's interesting though how perceptions can skew one's assumed "reality" even for otherwise reasonable folks like yourself. Likely by accident, but your assertion above is classic Alinskyan in it's reassignment of one party's own negative traits to the opposition.
We live in an environment where a very large percentage of younger Democrats now consider themselves SOCIALISTS!
Think about that for a moment.
There is nothing "center-right" about socialism.
We're in a position where wide swaths of Dems are now positioned left of George McGovern. Hell, many are left of the 1970's version of Jane Fonda. They'd call JFK's politics an example of conservative extremism. Not exaggerating. Layout JFK's political agenda and take a look.
You really need to take a step back and examine the positions of the New Democrat Party . . . . extreme taxation on productive earners, socialized medicine, class-envy, incented government dependency, opposition to contrarian free speech, antireligionism, criticism of American Exceptionalism, pro-abortion under any circumstance.
It is no longer the party of JFK.
It is the party of Ocasio-Cortez, of Tom Perez, of Bernie Sanders.
Those views ARE far left.
They DO comprise views of Democrats and the Democrat Party. They ARE extremist. I am surprised you as a non-far-leftist would not see that, and would not be uncomfortable with it.
E.g., in contrast at varying times, I've been labelled an "an extreme righty", "conservative hack", etc. by most libs here.
Yet here are my actual political positionings:
Just food for thought.
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:57 am to KCT
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:18 am to Korkstand
quote:Legal immigrant.
...is an immigrant.
quote:Nope. He is against illegal immigration. And so am I. One of the greatest strengths of our Nation is our diversity. And that diversity should be achieved legally.
anti-immigration
Don’t mind that you do not like DJT. I am not always a fan of him either. But make an honest argument.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:03 am to Korkstand
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That was Sergey Brin, who said he was "deeply offended" by the election results. And can you blame him?
It's not a matter of blaming him. It's simply a matter of duly noting how Far Left he & 98% of the people at Google/YouTube really are. Which in fact, is really the central theme of this thread.
Spoiler alert, Korkstand. Donald Trump is not anti-immigrant. Hell, he married 2 of them. Allow me to give you some basic information that perhaps even you will be able to understand. Ready for it?
Donald Trump is against ILLEGAL immigration. I'll repeat it once more in the hope that the synapses in your left-wing brain can successfully interpret this.
Donald Trump is against ILLEGAL immigration.
Which means, anybody in this country who is here LEGALLY has no RATIONAL reason to be afraid of President Trump.
You know what the real problem is, Korkscrew? Deep down, Alt-Left loons already know that what I just typed is true. You're REAL PROBLEM is that you favor open borders. Your idea of immigration is "If you can get here, you can stay here."
I mean, at least be honest about it. Deep down, you know damn well that Donald Trump isn't anti-immigrant. You left-wing loons are simply pissed off that Trump wants to enforce the laws against ILLEGAL immigration and strengthen border security.
And that's why both you and the anti-American POS who runs Google are DEAD WRONG on this matter.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 9:10 am
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:32 am to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Well, I'll at least give you credit for answering the questions which I had posed for Buckeye Vol. I figured he would go AWOL as soon as I attempted to get him to transition from his only interest, bashing me, to actually discussing the actual subject matter of this thread. So, kudo's on doing what BV wouldn't/couldn't do.
Now for the bad news, Kork. Unfortunately, you scored a ZERO on the exam. Your basic response that the social media guru's were all about cash & Capitalism, as opposed to having a deep-seated agenda against conservatives is simply hogwash. I could give you so many examples that I would be typing for a week, but here are two that just happened to come to mind:
1) Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey (AKA #FuhrerJack) and his platforms demonstrated bias against all things conservative. If it's really all about the Benjamin's, as you claim, wouldn't Dorsey & Twitter treat everyone the same? Of course they would. Yet, look at the facts. Roger Stone goes HAM on totally irrelevant little Don Lemon, and he gets "rewarded" with a permanent ban. But left- wing loon (and no-talent bum) Peter Fonda threatens FLOTUS Melania & 12 year-old Barron Trump, and #FuhrerJack does NOTHING about that. NOTHING. And this is a pattern repeated over-and-over. Alex Jones gets banned, but Keith Olbermann doesn't. Laura Loomer gets banned, but Michael Moore doesnt. And, don't even get me started on how badly #FuhrerJack and his dysfunctional band of pink-haired Nazi's treat anonymous conservatives. I could write the definitive book on that topic.
What in the hell does any of that have to do with cash & Capitalism, Korkscrew?
EDIT - I said I had two examples, and I did, but I'm tired of typing. I might be brilliant, but I can't type for shite.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 9:53 am to KCT
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I might be brilliant
You are great, definitely one of the most deluded people I've seen on here.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:08 am to MusclesofBrussels
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It’s been suggested it was either an image or a short text. In this video I noticed that HRC doesn’t take her note completely out of the envelope - she just slides it part way up - so I’m now leaning strongly toward a one liner. A very powerful one at that.
And so, now I know which one of your muscles receives the least blood flow.
Another Open Borders SJW, huh?
Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:35 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:To be fair, he wasn't fired for that. He was fired for violating the company's code of conduct. What would the response be here at the poli board if the politics were reversed, and the liberal wasn't fired for violating the code of conduct of a presumably conservative company?
Far left, for example, would be a culture forcing dismissal of someone like James Damore for issuing a logical, evidence-based response to a corporate questionnaire which did not jibe with leftist PC.
quote:You keep framing these questions in a very biased way. AFAIK, Google has never allowed or encouraged discussions about suppressing or advancing any particular political views... it is always about promoting the truth and eliminating fake news. Problem is the two ends of the spectrum disagree on what the truth is.
Far left would be a culture in that same company allowing and encouraging open discussion ways to suppress conservative search results, while advancing liberal ones.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:57 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:First, Socialism isn't a dirty word, and it's not evil or anything of the sort. No need to capitalize it. Second, what are you calling a "very large percentage"? This sounds like fake news to me. I am aware of the socialist "movement" in the US, but I haven't met a single person that wants to completely eliminate capitalism. Rather, many people recognize the shortcomings of capitalism, and socialist elements seem to be a good "fix" in some markets and situations.
We live in an environment where a very large percentage of younger Democrats now consider themselves SOCIALISTS!
quote:Never said there is, but you are the one who brought up socialism.
There is nothing "center-right" about socialism.
quote:Again, this sounds like fake news. I'm not saying these people don't exist, but where are your sources on your "wide swaths" claim?
We're in a position where wide swaths of Dems are now positioned left of George McGovern. Hell, many are left of the 1970's version of Jane Fonda. They'd call JFK's politics an example of conservative extremism. Not exaggerating. Layout JFK's political agenda and take a look.
quote:What is "extreme" taxation? Regardless of your definition, support of "extreme" taxation is likely a response to one of the recognized failings of capitalism I mentioned: wealth inequality. Wealth may "trickle down" to an extent, but it floods upwards. Call it envy if you're that type of person, but extreme wealth inequality in a society will inevitably lead to a "correction" by some means. You are opposed to socialist programs, and you're opposed to redistribution via taxation... that probably leaves only violence as a last resort.
You really need to take a step back and examine the positions of the New Democrat Party . . . . extreme taxation on productive earners, socialized medicine, class-envy, incented government dependency, opposition to contrarian free speech, antireligionism, criticism of American Exceptionalism, pro-abortion under any circumstance.
Opposition to contrarian free speech? Come on. Who doesn't oppose those who oppose them? And why do you think that opposition shouldn't be as free as the contrarian position?
What's your beef with antireligionism? Is that not also free speech?
quote:Back on topic, how many of the views you've listed do you think apply to the leadership and culture at Google? How many of these "extreme" views make their way into Google products as far left bias? And how many of these views do you see being supported in mainstream media? I don't watch much TV at all, but when I do watch cable news I do not see any of these positions being supported or opposed. I just see things being reported. I see crazy conservatives and I see crazy liberals. But I haven't seen anything that indicates that these "extreme" views are in any way mainstream.
Those views ARE far left.
They DO comprise views of Democrats and the Democrat Party. They ARE extremist.
quote:What other people think or feel never makes me uncomfortable. What does make me uncomfortable is when people with the power to affect my life and the lives of my fellow countrymen start actually doing something more than talking or bitching.
I am surprised you as a non-far-leftist would not see that, and would not be uncomfortable with it.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:31 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:And so am I. But it should be pretty clear that the system is broken since so many people choose the illegal route. So to me there are two basic approaches to the problem, as there are to most problems: level-headed, and knee-jerk.
Nope. He is against illegal immigration. And so am I.
The level-headed approach IMO would be to say, look, let's not only work on fixing the process of immigration itself, but let's also work on fixing the other issues that put unnecessary pressure on the process. It's ridiculous that it sometimes takes decades to immigrate legally, there must be many things we can do to work through that backlog. And what I mean by unnecessary pressure is, while I believe most immigrants want to come here to work, there are some (many?) who want to try to take advantage of social programs. I don't even understand how an undocumented person/family can receive benefits, but according to this board it's a big problem (right?). Another problem is many illegals pile into cheap housing and send nearly every dollar they make back home. While that's admirable in a way and I respect their dedication to giving their families a better life, we just can't let that money flow so freely out of our economy. I don't know the best way to solve these problems, but that's what I mean by the level-headed approach. Let's isolate the root(s) of the problem, talk it out and take action.
Then there is the knee-jerk approach that Trump takes with everything. "Build the wall" likely won him the presidency, so obviously there are a lot of knee-jerkers out there. But it's that type of jingoistic response to every issue that makes people like Sergey Brin, a legal immigrant, oppose his views and policies.
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