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re: So Gaetz is blaming McCarthy for working with democrats...
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:24 am to Bourre
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:24 am to Bourre
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Thinks everything has to do with MAGA
I think Gaetz's strategy, which he is promoting as MAGA, is MAGA. That's it.
Are you now claiming Gaetz hasn't framed his position/strategy as MAGA?
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:25 am to Bourre
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Can’t see the forest through the trees
My entire argument is big picture based in reality, and you make this comment?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:26 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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It's being painted as that because that makes it toxic.
Gaetz is acting as as useful idiot to permit just this, yes.
Again, a major part of why it's a terrible strategy if you care about fiscal responsibility.
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even if Gaetz and others make it easy to paint them that way. I'm not a big fan of Gaetz, but he's right on this.
Being right and creating strategy positive for the policy are 2 different things.
We are discussing Gaetz's strategy ITT
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:26 am to oogabooga68
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A cursory review of SFP's work reveals someone who is definitely either OFF his meds or needs to be put on them with the quickness.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is the whole fantasy/rejecting reality stuff.
Not continuing the CR nonsense year after year should not even be a controversial stance. We aren't talking about abortion.
If the Republican leadership would actually do their jobs, this would be an easy sell to their caucus and their constituents. They don't do that, because they WANT the CRs. They don't want the work or the responsibility to actually balance a budget, or have restrictions on spending or to give up any of their pet projects.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 11:31 am
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:31 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Not continuing the CR nonsense year after year should not even be a controversial stance
It is for the vast majority of the population.
It will take a long time and a great educational program to flip the tens of millions of voters you need to accomplish this goal.
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If the Republican leadership would actually do their jobs, this would be an easy sell to their caucus and their constituents.
Naw. There is a reason those constituents keep sending them to DC. The voters are largely happy with the status quo.
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They don't want to work or the responsibility to actually balance a budget, or have restrictions on spending or to give up any of their pet projects.
Because then they'll be voted out, likely by populists who will promise all the ice cream on Fridays they can.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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It is for the vast majority of the population.
This is a technical issue that an extreme minority understand. Not only do the "vast majority" not understand this, they don't even know this is even happening.
They don't support it, because they don't even know it exists.
And there are plenty of Republicans voting for these CRs that are in very comfortable Red districts. That's a bullshite argument. They aren't being held hostage by a philosophy they disagree with. They want this, so they get it.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:06 pm to Taketts
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Taketts
:Who the fack is this guy?:
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:16 pm to Taketts
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Am I missing something here?
yes, you are missing the fact that we must remove the rinos from power first, before wee can remove them from office.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is the whole fantasy/rejecting reality stuff.
It’s impossible to pass a budget?
Some of you are absolute slaves to the status quo.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, a major part of why it's a terrible strategy if you care about fiscal responsibility.
…as the house votes for another CR at 2T spending deficits, and you predict a long term CR, you’ve concluded that the group pushing against it is the problem.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:05 pm to moneyg
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It’s impossible to pass a budget?
In theoretical land? No.
In reality? About a 0.01% chance.
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Some of you are absolute slaves to the status quo.
Not pretending that my near impossible fantasy is on the verge of becoming reality is a hill I'm willing to die on.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If it means giving the DEMs fewer concessions.
Why is giving the DEMs more of what they want so popular by "fiscal conservatives" on here?
When's McCarthy ever going to live up to his deal that he made with Republicans to be speaker in the first place?
Reading your posts it seems like you're okay with business as usual in dc.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:07 pm to Taketts
Gaetz was too shady to be a used car salesman, so he became a politician.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:07 pm to Taketts
You are missing something alright...a focking brain man.
When this country goes bankrupt trying to support a Ukraine war and rebuilding efforts and another 10 million illegals from 156 countries carrying diseases never diagnosed in America you are going to be also missing your MONEY devaluated to nothing.
And the globalists say you won't complain !
When this country goes bankrupt trying to support a Ukraine war and rebuilding efforts and another 10 million illegals from 156 countries carrying diseases never diagnosed in America you are going to be also missing your MONEY devaluated to nothing.
And the globalists say you won't complain !
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:08 pm to moneyg
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you’ve concluded that the group pushing against it is the problem.
No. I said the strategy of this group is bad, because their strategy is shite and only emboldens the DEMs, ultimately.
I guess muh fight needs another label.
I'm going to do some secret audience testing of at least we tried before we failed
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:08 pm to tigerfoot
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Gaetz was too shady to be a used car salesman, so he became a politician.
He’s not as snakey as Rob or others who were MAGA for their benefit.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:09 pm to stuntman
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When's McCarthy ever going to live up to his deal that he made with Republicans
He made that deal with MAGA, not Republicans.
And he'll live up to the deal when MAGA gets enough support to matter.
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Reading your posts it seems like you're okay with business as usual in dc.
What about this:
Why is giving the DEMs more of what they want so popular by "fiscal conservatives" on here?
Implies this:
okay with business as usual in dc
?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:09 pm to momentoftruth87
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He’s not as snakey as Rob or others who were MAGA for their benefit.
THE IRONY
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Shut your mouth slowflowcuck
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