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re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by Saint Alfonzo
on 8/14/21 at 10:14 pm to DangerousWafer

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Let me repeat, who signed the bill into law? What party did he belong to? What party did Mike Mansfield belong to? Southern Democrats != all Democrats.
Lol. The same southern democrat party that enslaved black people, terrorized black people with the KKK, and ruthlessly enforced segregation and Jim Crow laws. The same democrats that filibustered the CRA for 75 days and voted against it. You can pretend that LBJ is some paragon of equal rights but he wasn't. He was a racist a-hole like most democrats of his day. And today for that matter. Anyone like yourself that pretends democrats weren't and aren't racist scum is completely full of shite.
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by Sasquatch45 on 8/14/21 at 10:17 pm to cajunbama
Clown
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by Fat Bastard
on 8/14/21 at 10:19 pm to Saint Alfonzo

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You can pretend that LBJ is some paragon of equal rights but he wasn't. He was a racist a-hole like most democrats of his day. And today for that matter. Anyone like yourself that pretends democrats weren't and aren't racist scum is completely full of shite.


re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by DagneyTaggert on 8/14/21 at 11:33 pm to DangerousWafer
You are grossly incorrect about Trump not being respected internationally.
It's not ultimately the Marxist/Communist, but the very real psychotic "flip" that has occurred or was somehow subliminally perpetrated upon so many peoples Brains that is just naturally part of human survival, common basic sense, will to live, be free, etc.
At this point, there is just no other explanation or reasoning that so many people can still NOT SEE, or at least question, doubt so as to cause them to do their own research. No doubt a sophisticated psyop was deployed upon the population. But the overwhelming, blatant hipocrasy, typical normal common sense, questions/doubts over such colossal, basic issues of Life/Truth, fairness, right/wrong, justice, freedom, enslavement.....literal Life & Death medical matters/issues..... would make anyone, at this point, to start searching, finding out the the abundance of evidence, data available.
Something very very serious was done to wipe, erase, wash peoples minds/brains.
It's not ultimately the Marxist/Communist, but the very real psychotic "flip" that has occurred or was somehow subliminally perpetrated upon so many peoples Brains that is just naturally part of human survival, common basic sense, will to live, be free, etc.
At this point, there is just no other explanation or reasoning that so many people can still NOT SEE, or at least question, doubt so as to cause them to do their own research. No doubt a sophisticated psyop was deployed upon the population. But the overwhelming, blatant hipocrasy, typical normal common sense, questions/doubts over such colossal, basic issues of Life/Truth, fairness, right/wrong, justice, freedom, enslavement.....literal Life & Death medical matters/issues..... would make anyone, at this point, to start searching, finding out the the abundance of evidence, data available.
Something very very serious was done to wipe, erase, wash peoples minds/brains.
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by DangerousWafer on 8/15/21 at 1:49 am to ChineseBandit58
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An examination of the House vote shows a similar pattern. The House voted 290 to 130 in favor. Democrats split their vote 152 (61%) to 96 (39%) while Republicans split theirs 138 (80%) to 34 (20%). The no vote consisted of 74% Democrats. Clearly, the 1964 Civil Rights Act could not have been passed without the leadership of Republicans such as Everett Dirksen and the votes of Republicans. As the online Wall Street Journal so aptly subtitled Mr. Steele's article, "Trent Lott jeopardizes the very productive ideas his party stands for."
So you just demonstrated my point.
Democrats were the majority of people who voted through the Civil Rights Act, which is what I said. Southern Democrats aren't representative of most Democrats (which you keep ignoring that I said).
You also haven't really attached evidence that LBJ passed the CRA because he wanted to destroy black society.

re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by Manarchist on 8/15/21 at 1:58 am to DangerousWafer
The reason is welfare, since you’re clearly ignorant of any sort of historical context.
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by CGSC Lobotomy on 8/15/21 at 2:28 am to DangerousWafer
DangerousWafer?
More like UrinalCake.
As far as your opinions on Afghanistan...it was a shite show from the time that Bin Laden was killed.
It was a hot mess in 2015 when I was last there...when Obama was President and couldn't make up his fricking mind regarding troop numbers. First it was 9,000 by 2015, then it was supposed to be 5,500 by 2016, then in October 2015 he extends that 5 months, then another extension in November 2015, then another.
As far as Jbird...I'll take the opinion of a retired Lieutenant Colonel over some limey douchebag 7 days a week.
You are the citizen of a country that wants to make owning carving knives illegal and prosecute dissenting opinions on social media.
I guess you hated Margaret Thatcher, the last UK leader worth a shit, too.
More like UrinalCake.
As far as your opinions on Afghanistan...it was a shite show from the time that Bin Laden was killed.
It was a hot mess in 2015 when I was last there...when Obama was President and couldn't make up his fricking mind regarding troop numbers. First it was 9,000 by 2015, then it was supposed to be 5,500 by 2016, then in October 2015 he extends that 5 months, then another extension in November 2015, then another.
As far as Jbird...I'll take the opinion of a retired Lieutenant Colonel over some limey douchebag 7 days a week.
You are the citizen of a country that wants to make owning carving knives illegal and prosecute dissenting opinions on social media.
I guess you hated Margaret Thatcher, the last UK leader worth a shit, too.
This post was edited on 8/15 at 2:31 am
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by David_DJS on 8/15/21 at 2:36 am to DangerousWafer
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You also haven't really attached evidence that LBJ passed the CRA because he wanted to destroy black society.
You can argue intent if you want, but you can’t argue results - LBJ’s Great Society has done yeomen’s work in destroying black society.
Today, just like yesterday, and in spite of the rhetoric and bobbing/weaving - the American Left is home to far more racists than the American Right.
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by AgentUtah
on 8/15/21 at 2:43 am to DangerousWafer

Am I supposed to be impressed? I have citizenship in 20+ countries ( including Kenya), still not bending the knee.
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re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by xxTIMMYxx on 8/15/21 at 2:55 am to DangerousWafer
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Most people internationally thought he was a joke and America had gone crazy
That’s complete bull shite spin you got straight off of cnn. Yea, some people didn’t like him because he made them pay their NATO dues. He held everyone to account who was taking advantage of America in terrible, terrible deals. His foreign policy was actually quite good. Hell, he had peace deals being made in the Middle East and in Serbia. Countries absolutely loathe our establishment and MIC. Go spend some time in another country, imbed yourself in their culture. They will tell you exactly what they think of America. I remember sitting at a family dinner where I was being lectured about how bad the propaganda is in our country. I was young and ignorant. I nodded, but disagreed. They were right.
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Pretty spot on extreme caricature from the perspective of a person who's offended by the mere thought of Donald Trump's commanding persona. I'm totally comfortable with it, but I can understand others being uneasy about his excess self-confidence. Personally, I find it to be quite intriguing. But those various world leaders you reference, they were intimidated by his commanding presence as well. He simply made them not only look like inferior officials, but made them feel the same way too. And for that they did hate him. That I will grant you.
European socialists didn’t like him because he called bs on the green new deal
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by TigerBogue
on 8/15/21 at 5:06 am to TOPAL

Great post!
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by ChineseBandit58
on 8/15/21 at 6:29 am to DangerousWafer

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So you just demonstrated my point.
Democrats were the majority of people who voted through the Civil Rights Act, which is what I said. Southern Democrats aren't representative of most Democrats (which you keep ignoring that I said).
You also haven't really attached evidence that LBJ passed the CRA because he wanted to destroy black society.
You may be the most intellectually dishonest person to show his head on the PT in quite some time. Since I suspect you are a person of some means, and not some poor brainwashed kid from the ghetto who never had a chance at a responsible culture, or basic education, or parental guidance, I offer you no sympathy. You used whatever latent intelligence you had to find ways to ignore the obvious and suck up to the most virulent propaganda you can find. Hell, you may be 'smart' enough to be one of the makers of the propaganda - If so, you cannot be forgiven except by God Himself. You should find no refuge among us mortals who are doing the best we can to preserve moral freedom, liberty, and opportunity for our progeny.
Let me introduce you to some facts:
This forum is not a courtroom. Here, proper analysis of data is required to evaluate 'evidence' = and that always, always, always, requires that the data be analyzed in wrt to the context within which the data is analyzed.
LBJ - and his 'super majority' - was the direct result of a 'sympathy vote' in the wake of JFK assassination. period. NOBODY voted 'for' LBJ. He could never have become POTUS on his own merits. He was known to be one of the most devious, power-hungry, racist, political manipulator, in DC. JFK chose him to be his VP for one reason only - for him to work is "magic" to secure the vote of Texas, without which, JFK would not have a chance for election. So he was there in the first place as an essential part of the election shenanigans of 1960. And he delivered. JFK and LBJ hated each other, and the political thought in DC was that JFK would select another partner for VP in the upcoming election. The first thought that anyone with any knowledge of LBJ's history and methodology had upon hearing that JFK had been assassinated was "LBJ is behind this."
And yes, there were some very fine DEMOCRATs in those days, mostly from the north. Southern DEMs were avid racists, but to say that it was "democrats" who pushed the CRA is totally and objectively bass-ackward. It was the GOP, although in the minority, that kept the fire of equality going. DEMs were overwhelmingly against the CRA. GOP was hugely overwhelmingly FOR the CRA.
It would be totally correct to say = "except for a minority of DEMs, joining the majority of GOP, the CRA would not have been passed. And I give THOSE DEMs all the credit they deserve.
But sadly, THOSE DEMs have ZERO in common with the MODERN DAY DEMs. The DEMOCRAT party of 2021 is a collection of the most vile political ideologues since Stalin/Mao. There is not an honorable DEM at the national level extant in America today.
NAME ONE if you can.
As for you - you are representative of the modern 'progressive' movement - knows nothing - has no curiosity about root causes of any domestic problems - is arrogant in your ignorance - is fearful of truth and logic. But worst of all = you have that taste for absolute power over all your 'subjects' so that you will never again have to do anything but cater to your innermost lust. Just look at the absolute horror of some of these DEMs who discovered the reins of 'emergency powers' = they are using it to ensure that there will ALWAYS be some 'emergency' that warrants total control over the population.
"we have always been at war with Eastasia." = prophecy come true.
You are incapable of engaging in a rational discussion - because you have no rationale to offer other than your ideology.
You are totally dismissive of how the current situation arose during the long march of history. I was born in the depths of the Great Depression. I know what it was like to do without essentials. I know how my parents toiled during every waking hour to garner enough money to purchase essential goods. My mother raised most of our food in a garden, and my father worked for 50 cents a day to get scrip from the company store.
MY generation grew up with a firm commitment for individual responsibility and a passion for hard work. Prophetically the primary lesson from our parents was "Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt them." Check with anyone my age to see if they recall that lesson from their youth. Your idiotic 'words' bounce off us like dew off a duck's back.
YOUR generation's biggest worry is what color feather to poke in their asses at the next PRIDE parade, and your only interest is to be on the leading edge of defining the next misfit group that can be exploited for being "oppressed."
Your ideology is empty rhetoric and meaningless platitude. Your biggest resource is the unimaginable ignorance and lack of wisdom within the plantations of irresponsibility you created.
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by TaderSalad
on 8/15/21 at 6:34 am to DangerousWafer

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If I recall, Trump was the one who agreed to withdraw in the first place.
So the taliban has been going at this for 9 months?
Didn’t think so. Plus, you dems aren’t the beacon on a hill anyone actually takes seriously. Go invent another gender, filth.
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by RogerTheShrubber
on 8/15/21 at 6:35 am to DangerousWafer

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You do realize I have dual citizenship, right?
Shit, no one wants you.
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by ChineseBandit58
on 8/15/21 at 6:44 am to DangerousWafer

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You also haven't really attached evidence that LBJ passed the CRA because he wanted to destroy black society.
oh - just to play your game for my amusement in your 'courtroom'
*I* am an eye-witness to the event - To be accepted as true evidence unless successfully challenged by cross-examination.
*YOU* are offering hear-say testimony =inadmissible in any court under any circumstance - jury instructed to totally disregard.

re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by DangerousWafer on 8/15/21 at 6:48 am to ChineseBandit58
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And yes, there were some very fine DEMOCRATs in those days, mostly from the north. Southern DEMs were avid racists, but to say that it was "democrats" who pushed the CRA is totally and objectively bass-ackward. It was the GOP, although in the minority, that kept the fire of equality going. DEMs were overwhelmingly against the CRA. GOP was hugely overwhelmingly FOR the CRA.
Your own link doesn't support that at all. Why lie?
Most Democrats voted for it with a minority that didn't - namely Southern Democrats.
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It would be totally correct to say = "except for a minority of DEMs, joining the majority of GOP, the CRA would not have been passed. And I give THOSE DEMs all the credit they deserve.
150+ Democrats doesn't sound like a minority.
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Since I suspect you are a person of some means, and not some poor brainwashed kid from the ghetto who never had a chance at a responsible culture, or basic education, or parental guidance, I offer you no sympathy.
You'd be correct with that assumption but I don't need your sympathy

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You are incapable of engaging in a rational discussion - because you have no rationale to offer other than your ideology.
Says the guy waxing hysteria about how Dems have absolute taste for power and implying that I'm/Democrats are somehow evil.
Your entire post is hysteria and delusion. There's no rational discussion to be had because you're approaching this as if I'm an enemy. One cannot discuss anything when his counterpart views him as an enemy.
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You should find no refuge among us mortals who are doing the best we can to preserve moral freedom, liberty, and opportunity for our progeny.
You're the only one who wants this ...
See what I mean about the hysteria? Most Americans want this for their progeny. I just don't agree with Republicans on how to get there. There's no virulent propaganda - I just don't agree with Republicans on their policies.
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NAME ONE if you can.
Jon Tester (Democrat senator for Montana)
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YOUR generation's biggest worry is what color feather to poke in their asses at the next PRIDE parade, and your only interest is to be on the leading edge of defining the next misfit group that can be exploited for being "oppressed."
Every generation says this about the next generation. You're hardly unique. I believe most people, regardless of age or ideology, want the best for their children and their country. There's no hysteria in my approach unlike yours. I don't believe most Americans who disagree with me are evil.
re: So for those who wanted Trump gone...Posted by DangerousWafer on 8/15/21 at 6:53 am to ChineseBandit58
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*YOU* are offering hear-say testimony =inadmissible in any court under any circumstance - jury instructed to totally disregard.
No, I'm not offering hear-say testimony - you are.
I didn't make the claim. The onus is on you to back it up. I demonstrated that a majority of Democrats voted for the CRA (you claimed otherwise but even your own link shows you were wrong).
You did and then said you were an eye-witness. No court of opinion would rule on just an eye-witness.

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