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Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:40 am to sta4ever
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Always exceptions for Russia on here. “Well the US this, the US that.” Sound like a bunch of Middle Eastern dictators repeating those lines.
So you cannot respond and deflect. The usual response. I’m used to it.
So you want to hold Russia to a higher standard than we do ourselves? What guarantees have we given Iraq? Afghanistan? You know.. the two countries we landed in the last time and just wrecked their shite. They have guarantees?
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Agreed. Just like how Israel did it from the ground up, with no outside help.
And it took you a couple lines to totally contradict your first response. And speaking of Israel, you folks were screaming for a ceasefire in Gaza weren’t you?
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Belarus is already compromised by Russia. They’re on their own so no.
Same thing Ukraine was before Obama.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 10:57 am to sta4ever
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It’s amazing that you aren’t ashamed of yourself for being a Putin lover for all these years
And the closet warmonger finally comes out
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:06 am to RoosterCogburn585
The ones that do believe that also believe that Russia has the military capability to take Europe if they take Ukraine. Can Ukraine win? No. Can Ukraine probably drag this thing out for a while longer? Yes. Either way Ukraine loses eventually and Russia still isn't gonna take Europe.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:13 am to RoosterCogburn585
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If the answer is no, then why are they so adamant the fighting continues? All it leads to is unnecessary death and destruction. They've gotten hundreds of billions with little to no results on the battle field. Why keep continuing to fight a losing battle?
Define winning. Does anyone think they can march in Moscow? Obviously no. Reclaim all of their lost territory through soldier on solider combat? Also no.
Could they use the weapons they are provided to destroy supply lines and make positions untenable for the Russians causing a withdrawal? Absolutely, that’s how they pushed Russia back the boundary of Kiev and out of Kherson. That’s battlefield success especially when taking into account their opponent has spent more money on the war while going through their stockpiles of USSR tanks, and requiring drones from Iran and artillery from North Korea.
They are fighting for their freedom, and they aren’t going to just stop fighting because we stopped giving them aid, because Russia isn’t going to stop fighting.
Time to quit pretending you guys care about reducing deaths and peace, because if that were actually true you’d be asking Trump why isn’t he asking the Russians for a ceasefire as well? Note: The Russians (Lavrov) have just clearly stated they are not interested in a cease fire. I.E. stopping weapons doesn’t prevent the killing, it just ensure more of the killed are Ukrainian and fewer are Russian.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:25 am to CleverUserName
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And it took you a couple lines to totally contradict your first response. And speaking of Israel, you folks were screaming for a ceasefire in Gaza weren’t you?
My folks? I’m very Pro-Israel and always have been. Israel and Ukraine are both the same. Both were attacked by unprovoked aggression and have the right to defend themselves.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:33 am to tadman
and many here would discard a life jacket if Trump said to...
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:44 am to sta4ever
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Posted by sta4ever 3/5/25 at 8:22 am to the808bass quote:
What do you want? Be as specific as possible.
No war duh. Like I’ve been saying for years now. This war does not need to happen.
Ok. You’re just trolling. Got it.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:44 am to TigersnJeeps
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and many here would discard a life jacket if Trump said to..
It will just be a “minor disturbance” lol.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:45 am to RCDfan1950
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The US would not tolerate Putin moving in on our Southern/Mexico Border, and neither should Russian tolerate Ukraine going NATO. Obama/Biden and the Globalist EU and their ilk started this war, and they own it.
Bingo. Leadership in 2014 ASKED for this. They wanted the political kickbacks.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:45 am to aero1126
Here’s another person in search of conflict and no goal for resolution. Just “throw more money at it and hope something happens.”
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:55 am to the808bass
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Ok. You’re just trolling. Got it.
How so? Just because I don’t fit the narrative, that people who support Ukraine just want death and war to happen?
I talked about the situation arising in Ukraine many years before 2022, and how it needs to be stopped, because if that becomes a real war, then we’re on the verge of WWIII. Do you just not agree with that or something? I thought you guys didn’t want war and want there to be peace.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:05 pm to the808bass
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Here’s another person in search of conflict and no goal for resolution. Just “throw more money at it and hope something happens.”
Goal for resolution? How about demanding a ceasefire from Putin in the same way they are demanding it from Z. That’s fair isn’t it?
What Trump is doing isn’t a goal for peace which requires both parties (Ukraine and Russia) to work, as that would require making demands of both parties, which clearly is not happening.
Before the Oval Office meeting Russia said they aren’t interested in a cease fire. Not a peep from Trump. Then Z says he doesn’t want a ceasefire without security guarantees and everyone loses their mind and calling him a war monger.
You can’t objectively say that’s in the pursuit of peace when it’s completely one sided.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:15 pm to CleverUserName
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It definitely is one of two choices. There are only two. So they can pick one of the two.
statist4ever and his comrades bought into the propaganda that Ukraine was winning the war. Their ego won’t allow them to accept that they were being lied to.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:20 pm to sta4ever
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Sound like a bunch of Middle Eastern dictators repeating those lines.
You know who else sounds like a Middle Eastern dictator? You and the rest of the Muh Russia crowd. Russia is your boogeyman like Israel is the ME dictator’s
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:24 pm to aero1126
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Before the Oval Office meeting Russia said they aren’t interested in a cease fire. Not a peep from Trump. Then Z says he doesn’t want a ceasefire without security guarantees and everyone loses their mind and calling him a war monger.
The difference, of course, is that Putin is not asking for hundreds of billions of dollars from us.
I agree that we should be negotiating from a position of strength with Russia, as far as that is possible. But without a willingness to commit ground troops from our side, we don’t have a lot of cards to play with him. I also think it would a crime against our citizens to send out boys to die in Ukraine.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:26 pm to thebigmuffaletta
ukraine4ever and crazy4ukraine always make me laugh.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:26 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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statist4ever and his comrades bought into the propaganda that Ukraine was winning the war. Their ego won’t allow them to accept that they were being lied to.
Did Putin order you to say that?
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:29 pm to sta4ever
Surely there’s a seminar or continuing education you can take to just get better at whatever you’re trying to do.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:31 pm to sta4ever
What does that mean?
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