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re: So did Pretti’s gun go off in the agent’s hand or not?

Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:25 am to
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:25 am to
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I care about what happened. If that’s not what happened, it’s a bad shoot, plain and simple.
Disagree.

The gun didn’t have to go off in his hand in order for ICE to defense themselves.

He could have simply pulled it out, or even been reaching for it.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:26 am to
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Who cares if he had 1 clip or 15 clips

A clip? Did he have a fricking Garand?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:26 am to
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Attitude but no substance. I care about what happened. If that’s not what happened, it’s a bad shoot, plain and simple.

this is where I am on this thing

I'm giving the ICE guys every benefit of doubt I can. I want them to be right.

But at the moment I am not convinced.

I will continue to stand up for them until actual facts prove otherwise.

And even if one has made a mistake, I will be on their side and wish them well.

The MORAL fault is with the DEM party in general - and with the MN officials in particular - and incidentally with the shite-for-brains public in MN.
Posted by LSUnation78
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:26 am to
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He did not pull it out



So the gun jumped into his hand on its own then I guess.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:26 am to
It's as simple as that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:26 am to
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I hate to break it to you, but yes when a LEO is wrestling with an armed terrorist, he is in fact "fighting for his life".


Sure, but I thought we were talking about the killing in Minnesota and not an unrelated factual hypothetical
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 8:27 am
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32831 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:27 am to
Yeah if he had the gun, but unless he had two guns that day, that didn’t happen. As we are saying ITT, the agent took the one gun we know about. And nobody has said he had two guns.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:27 am to
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I don’t see how anyone, other than maybe some of the people in contact with him during that moment, know that information.


Gun powder residue might be able to solve the mystery.

Let's see if the feds do a proper investigation
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16637 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:27 am to
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The guy was crazy all in. He bit an Agent’s finger off. There was a scramble for the gun. Shoot first or die.

Please don’t clutter up conversations with bullshite. No one in that scuffle had their finger bitten off.

Please pay attention to facts. That was a totally different location, different people, different incident.
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:27 am to
The agent pulled it out of his holster.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:27 am to
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He could have simply pulled it out, or even been reaching for it.
he didn’t pull it out or reach for it. An agent took it out of his holster while yelling “GUN!” and another agent heard that and started shooting
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32831 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:28 am to
This is not the best video I’ve seen but it’s the kind of video we are talking about here:

LINK
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
22473 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:28 am to
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Colossal frick up by those agents. Colossal


No. They are still alive and your hero useful idiot is no more..

Well done ICE!
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 8:29 am
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:29 am to
Keep up little droogie.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49521 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:29 am to
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The whole thing is about shutting DOWN the deportations.

and directing attention away from the billions of fraud.
Posted by hogcard1964
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:30 am to
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and directing attention away from the billions of fraud.


Bingo
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:31 am to
Surprise surprise ole Kiwi the never Trump “I’ll sit out the election” bitch is all about the latest leftist outrage
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71142 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:32 am to
I'm not saying the shooting was justified, I'm not saying it wasn't, but it's a good rule of thumb not to inject yourself into a tense situation involving law enforcement while armed with a gun.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:34 am to
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He did not pull it out or threaten to use it.


How do you know this?

I’ve watched what I think are all the videos. I can’t see anything regarding what he did or did not pull out and I can’t hear what he is saying.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 8:34 am to
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official
Position on the matter

anyone curious why this is isolated to minneapolis
seems to be a psywar op and both sides are falling for it…
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