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So chattanooga signed up to become a 15 min city?

Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted by LChama
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:07 pm
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How can this stand? So they fine people if they leave the city more than 100 times a year
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 12:17 pm
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Posted by Frank Black
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:15 pm to
How many minutes were they before?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:16 pm to
It’s a design trend where everything you need should be within a 15 minute walk, bike ride or ride on public transportation.


Progs make use of the word inclusive in its application so apparently there’s some negative connotations about it.

There are a couple of conspiracy theories about the subject but I don’t know what they entail.

My guess is that you get more fed money if you use the 15 minute concept.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:16 pm to
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The 15-minute city (FMC for short) is a model for urban planning associated with the New Urbanism movement that is focused on creating a city/town that is not car dependent, has sustainable city practices, and is inclusively engaged with the community. The name comes from the fact that the model’s central characteristic is that from any point in the city, food, work, healthcare centers, and schools should only be a 15-minute walk away.


THE HORROR.

I'm sure you're going to cite some random alleged link to the WEF or something when this is a benign (and, most importantly, local, policy goal).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:17 pm to
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There are a couple of conspiracy theories about the subject but I don’t know what they entail.

I'll bet you they involve the WEF, which supposedly runs the world but the people who bring it up the most didn't know it existed 4 years ago
Posted by AUauditor
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:17 pm to
It is not requiring everyone to live within 15 minutes of work...is it?

I figure it is a planning process of trying to make things available to people living in the city.


The 15-minute city (FMC or 15mC)[1][2][3][4] is an urban planning concept in which most daily necessities and services, such as work, shopping, education, healthcare, and leisure can be easily reached by a 15-minute walk or bike ride from any point in the city.[5] This approach aims to reduce car dependency, promote healthy and sustainable living, and improve wellbeing and quality of life for city dwellers.[6][7]

Implementing the 15-minute city concept requires a multi-disciplinary approach, involving transportation planning, urban design, and policymaking, to create well-designed public spaces, pedestrian-friendly streets, and mixed-use development. This change in lifestyle may include remote working which reduces daily commuting and is supported by the recent widespread availability of information and communications technology (ICT). The concept has been described as a "return to a local way of life".[8]
Posted by LChama
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:18 pm to
Ive heard tons of facial recognition camera s to monitor your movement and ensure you dont leave more than 100 times per year or you get fined.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Ive heard tons of facial recognition camera s to monitor your movement and ensure you dont leave more than 100 times per year or you get fined.


What does this have to do with efficient urban planning, exactly?
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:19 pm to
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My guess is that you get more fed money if you use the 15 minute concept.


My guess is that these are the same assholes who decry “suburban sprawl”, Walmart, etc, because they show how so called “urban planners” don’t know what the frick they are doing and aren’t in touch with reality.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Ive heard tons of facial recognition camera s to monitor your movement and ensure you dont leave more than 100 times per year or you get fined.


Where?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:23 pm to
Being able to have everything you need in a 15 minute walk is a good thing, but that’s not where this is going to stop. The idea is to divide cities into these 15 minute zones and then make travel between those zones a privilege. First, they encourage people to give up their cars, then make them prohibitively expensive to own, operate, and insure, and then they ban them completely so you can’t realistically leave your “15 minute city”.

This sounds insane and paranoid, but after Covid and all of the astroturfing push towards us all eating bugs and banning internal combustion vehicles and gas stoves, is this really that unbelievable?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:24 pm to
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because they show how so called “urban planners” don’t know what the frick they are doing and aren’t in touch with reality.

I think they're more upset with urban areas (their preferred organizational structure) subsidizing the suburban sprawl (their less-preferred organizational structure). There is a lot of scholarship about this out there.

I don't think there is much of an honest argument that an well-planned urban center is less efficient and less resource-intense than its suburban-sprawl counterpart.
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Ive heard tons of facial recognition camera s to monitor your movement and ensure you dont leave more than 100 times per year or you get fined.


If you "heard" that, which I doubt, it was not in relation to the United States. There are countries around the world where that may be legal, but not here.

That would violate the constitution in multiple ways.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:26 pm to
The concept includes walking, biking and public transport.

Are there color coded zones that account for the difference in distance each of those means can cover in 15 minutes.

If I take a train 15 minutes, how many zones did I cross?

I think we found our first conspiracy theory.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:26 pm to
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t’s a design trend where everything you need should be within a 15 minute walk, bike ride or ride on public transportation.


its to force people into pods. You will not drive, but supposedly everything you need will be within 15 minute walk.

Most anti organic social planning ends in disaster.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:27 pm to
It “subsidizes” it because the urban areas are so horribly run that the choices are to move to the suburbs or leave the metro area completely.

If they want to “subsidize” less sprawl, stop implementing fricking stupid policies that chase people from urban areas.
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