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re: So, Again, No Collusion?

Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:07 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:07 am to
This is exactly why Trump should never talk to Mueller.

The SC is manufacturing crimes to validate its existence.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40800 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:13 am to
WITCH HUNT!
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:13 am to
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This is all about Stone being the middleman of info between the info Russia stole from the Dems and the Trump campaign

So the DNC finally let the FBI examine their server? And they proved Russians hacked them? And you provided a link to this instead of speculating and wishing based on your delusions and feelings?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425278 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:14 am to
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This is all about Stone being the middleman of info between the info Russia stole from the Dems and the Trump campaign. Mueller has proof Stone lied to the FBI about this. That isn't collusion to you?

i think your account is wrong

Russia, apparently, tried to set up a meeting (and, allegedly, STone was one of the middlemen setting it up) with Trump's people (whether it was under false pretenses or not is not clear, but let's say it was clearly about dirt). at this meeting, they informed Trump's people of the hacked information. There doesn't seem to be much to indicate Trump's team really wanted that info or used it, and it was publicly released a short while later.

that's your "collusion". under the worst interpretation, what, exactly, is there to freak out about? hell even the "collusion" angle starts to have major issues once the information was released publicly.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112886 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:16 am to
Orange man bad

You know this
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27349 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:18 am to
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Russia, apparently, tried to set up a meeting


Yeah, I literally had a Russian set up a meeting with me about a contract last week... The meeting is scheduled for next week... You think I should cancel the meeting?

I mean there will be some obvious collusion going on...
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80520 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:19 am to
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There doesn't seem to be much to indicate Trump's team really wanted that info or used it, and it was publicly released a short while later.


Wasn't there something recently about Manafort sharing internal polling data with pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarchs?

Ostensibly to show his worth in that he still has access to such info?
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 7:19 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
8036 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:20 am to
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So, Again, No Collusion?


Muh process crimes.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73520 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:20 am to
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sharing internal polling data
OMG not polling data!
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58317 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:22 am to
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Russia, apparently, tried to set up a meeting


But the Russians were more interested in getting the Magnitsky Act overturned.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27349 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:23 am to
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pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarchs


WOW, that is some scary shite...



Did he look like this dude?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80520 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:26 am to
"HRC is up 3 points in Wakalusa County, Wisconsin, Vlad, go buy some ads and foment some controversy?"

Would that be problematic if true?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425278 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:26 am to
Manafort is a snake who obviously thought Russia was his way to really make money. Manafort's industry is access, so it's not crazy to think he was displaying that value to the people who had been bankrolling his lifestyle the past decade or so.

relations with Russia was a major aspect of the campaign. HRC basically wanted war. Trump could have done it as a good faith gesture. that's not "collusion"

it could have been used for Russian online activity, but it's hard to know exactly what happened there b/c the data isn't really public (and, it appears their focus was on promoting far left concepts more than anything)
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:26 am to
Thirty three Thousand emails later and .... crickets from the DOJ.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:28 am to
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HRC basically wanted war.
While the left memed and spouted off publicly about the dangers of Trump having the button...It was OMG twenty four seven but that was fine....it's fine.gif
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27349 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:28 am to
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Would that be problematic if true?


"Hey guys, here is some cash, go make up some outrageous dossier about Trump... Throw some golden showers in and a reference to Obama for good measure..."

Is this what you are referring to?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22062 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:29 am to
He got charged with lying about coordinating actions between the campaign and (Russian-owned) Wikileaks.

Your house of cards continues to crumble.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425278 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:29 am to
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"HRC is up 3 points in Wakalusa County, Wisconsin, Vlad, go buy some ads and foment some controversy?"

Would that be problematic if true?

this will require a highly technical argument similar to Citizens United
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:29 am to
They ignore this part with ease.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64797 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:30 am to
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(Russian-owned) Wikileaks.


What?????
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