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re: So according to Leftists and Liberaltarians , it's not OK to call someone groomer...
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:28 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:28 pm to AggieHank86
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You equate (a) reading stories to kids in a public library with (b) violent anal rape in a filthy restroom.
Both are symptoms of the same problem.
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:31 pm to Penrod
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Then you are an idiot.
Nope. Just not blind. People who vote for people they know will support:
1. Drag queen story time
2. Child transgender surgery
3. Teachers talking to Kindergartners about sex (see: Florida's Parental Rights in Education bill and the nationwide outrage from every Democrat)
4. Allowing men who pretend to be women to use girls bathrooms
Absolutely support grooming children.
Only an idiot would claim otherwise.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:36 pm to AggieHank86
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First, you seem to assume that one can "groom" another person to be transgender, which I am not sure is the case.
You think the 5 year old trannies are really trannies?
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:39 pm to oogabooga68
The fact that they're trying to ban the word means it stings them.
Keep using it. frick them groomers.
Keep using it. frick them groomers.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:41 pm to AggieHank86
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First, you seem to assume that one can "groom" another person to be transgender, which I am not sure is the case. "Grooming" is more-commonly used to refer to a person trying to get into your son's pants ... sexual activity. But let's not quibble too much on that semantic point. Whether we use the term "grooming" or another term, let's assume that there ARE people actively trying to convince your son that he is in fact your daughter and that he should eventually lop-off his wiener and buy a set of bolt-ons.
Well first, I'm not sure I am assuming that (or at least that it's important in any argument I'm making). But I think the evidence is very clear that we're dealing with a sort of "transitory transgenderism" - particularly in girls. Which if so, would certainly lend itself to something akin to "grooming" - ie, convincing kids to go down that road.
The rest of this is a little hard to follow for me.
I'm not committed to the term "groomer" but I'm also not opposed to it for the people trying to open up children to the world of being transgender, whether they're trying to get your kids to transition or not. But that's not the same for me as
quote:
the term "groomer" to refer to someone who just does not generally have a problem with kids being aware of the concept of drag.
Someone who takes their small kids to a drag show is probably opening them up to all sorts of confusion regarding gender and sexuality, but I'm not sure I'd call it grooming. It might be child abuse, and it might have similar outcomes to grooming efforts, but I don't think I'd call the parents "groomers."
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:43 pm to the808bass
quote:Weird question. You have just defined two things as being the same.
You think the 5 year old trannies are really trannies?
I THINK you are asking whether I believe that every prepubescent child who is SAYING that he is transgendered ... is ACTUALLY transgendered. Correct?
If so, no.
First, I think that there is a very large percentage of these kids who are just sort of LARPing the "cool thing," even if they have sort-of convinced themselves.
Are there SOME little kids suffering real gender dysphoria? Absolutely. And some damned reliable research from Canada seems to indicate that (left to progress naturally) the VAST majority of THEM will grow into perfectly happy, well-adjusted gay folks and that only a very, very small percentage of those "gender dysphoria kids" would actually benefit from eventual gender reassignment.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:44 pm to AggieHank86
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First, I think that there is a very large percentage of these kids who are just sort of LARPing the "cool thing," even if they have sort-of convinced themselves.
So they can be influenced into identifying as transgender.
We agree. Even after you just said you weren’t sure.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:44 pm to AggieHank86
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You equate (a) reading stories to kids in a public library with (b) violent anal rape in a filthy restroom.
No, that's valid.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:45 pm to Pettifogger
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But I think the evidence is very clear that we're dealing with a sort of "transitory transgenderism" - particularly in girls.
Unfortunately, very real harm can occur in the transitory period.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:46 pm to the808bass
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These kids will have life long problems
They have been PROGRESSED.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:51 pm to SammyTiger
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I don’t have to project, when you’re upset about a lesbian telling her student about her wife.
Yeah that’s the first step to that kid getting molested.
Exactly, because that never
ever happened to 13 year olds
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:51 pm to Pettifogger
quote:And this is where I get confused trying to follow these discussions, because we keep jumping between drag performers and transgenders. I see very little likelihood that readers at DQST are actively trying to convince your son that he is transgender, because statistically it is very unlikely that the READER is transgender. It is FAR more likely that he is gay. If he is trying to convince your son of ANYTHING (other than to be comfortable with others different from himself), it would be to go gay ... not to lop off his wiener.
I'm not committed to the term "groomer" but I'm also not opposed to it for the people trying to open up children to the world of being transgender, whether they're trying to get your kids to transition or not.
quote:And still more confusion here. I would be FAR less likely to take my child to a drag show than to drag queen story time, because the two activities are VERY different. The posters who talk about the more sexualized elements of the drag show are definitely CORRECT, as compared to DQST.
Someone who takes their small kids to a drag show is probably opening them up to all sorts of confusion regarding gender and sexuality, but I'm not sure I'd call it grooming.
quote:And this is why I respect you as a poster. You are largely-aligned with the "groomer shouters" ideologically, yet YOU are able to see the levels of nuance inherent to a VERY complex set of issues.
I'm not sure I'd call it grooming. It might be child abuse, and it might have similar outcomes to grooming efforts, but I don't think I'd call the parents "groomers."
No, I am not inviting you to a drag show.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 1:57 pm to the808bass
quote:I said that I was not sure that the term "grooming" was the correct term for the activity you describe, because "grooming" seems to related directly to sexual activity rather than gender identity. I definitely did not say that I was unsure the behavior exists.
So they can be influenced into identifying as transgender.
We agree. Even after you just said you weren’t sure.
Of course kids are being influenced by the omnipresence of "transgenderism" and "drag" in the current cultural discussion. Hell, how many TV programs involve either drag or transgenderism? Bunches. Hell, it isn't new. Look at Chris Tucker in Fifth Element.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:06 pm to LSUbest
The only article you linked involving a married woman was a woman married to a man.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:06 pm to Bass Tiger
Plenty of good Catholics and Southern Baptists in this thread.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:08 pm to AggieHank86
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I would be FAR less likely to take my child to a drag show than to drag queen story time, because the two activities are VERY different.
Yeah, one's a freak sex show and the other is a infant's first rape.
Obama got one thing right - we SHOULD be a little more like the Muslims.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:10 pm to AggieHank86
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Both are childish AND defamatory.
Calling a gay person a groomer just because s/he is gay (mostly he) is dumb. But recognizing tendencies and media/political/corporate agendas and calling them out is a different story. There’s also a perpetual troll game going on here and the left is bad at it. Actually that’s not true. The entire current installed admin is a giant troll job.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:12 pm to AggieHank86
quote:The DildoButtMonkey pictured in a kids library just above your post says "Hi"
as compared to DQST.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:12 pm to SammyTiger
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The only article you linked involving a married woman was a woman married to a man.
But they're all lesbian filth, and they all used their teaching position to seduce and molest minors.
Somehow you remind me of that time I found the shiners I'd forgotten in my live well.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:17 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Oh, then by all means, which LGBTQIA2S+ letter assignment would you prefer?
The only article you linked involving a married woman was a woman married to a man.
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