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re: Slate is trying to take down Joe Rogan (Update page 4)
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I always thought that was a troll page.
Dictatorship Of The Swoletariat
no?
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:55 am to OMLandshark
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Yeah, having long form conversations that require an attention span more than 4 fricking minutes is clearly the dumbest point in American history
and the author bitches about the time investment
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What’s a centering institution? Is it these SJW campuses that everyone hates? Or is it that CNN no longer gets to determine what the dialogue is? Further more why should we have a centering institution in a free society?
for the same reason that Joe Rogan needs to be an editor and stand up to his guests. we are the dumbest population in American history because we are showing out lack of need of gatekeepers...er...centering institutions (like the traditional media)
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Governing social norms?!?! What fricking country do you live in? If you want that, move to Saudi fricking Arabia. I want a free society, but you want to put in laws that would destroy a free society and censor anyone that doesn’t agree with you 100%. You are a tyrannical count that needs to get the frick out of my country.
the reason why "governing social norms" are "unenforceable" is because they're changing at an insane pace
nobody can keep up unless you're at the outermost of the fringe...and how do they keep up?
gatekeepers of information telling them what the expected behaviors of the times dictate
this is all calculated (and clearly hidden) authoritarianism
but you know, we're conspiracy kooks for pointing this out
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Their own truths? Lol. Maybe sometimes they are using inconvenient facts to uncover an actual truth you just don’t like as an intersectionalist communist weasel.
the fact is that many actual academics on Rogan discuss how the "centering institution" of academia (which the author heavily and ignorantly relies upon in the article) is biased and attacks any study or academic who doesn't tote their biased value system. and these are actual academics (not named Jordan Peterson), so the kind of authority this author is claiming the JRE audience won't listen to. but they're not real academics....because he, a non-academic, said so. they're nothing more than " charlatans, aggro-provocateurs, and other confident dullards"
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 3/24/19 at 9:57 am to Roaad
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I always thought that was a troll page.
no?
i follow so many i don't really look into them hardcore (or often), so maybe. i thought it was legit though
i really think it's legit
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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the reason why "governing social norms" are "unenforceable" is because they're changing at an insane pace nobody can keep up unless you're at the outermost of the fringe...and how do they keep up?
That's why it appears to me they're reaching critical mass. Between guys like Pool and Rubin (and even Rogan) being considered alt-right, the demonization as a neo-Nazi of a tiny little Jewish intellectual like Shapiro, the entire TERF movement, the Progressive left's intersectionalism was doomed to fail - they've just hit hypersonic speed towards that conclusion.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:16 am to Ace Midnight
that FB argument i referenced earlier was classic intersectionalist v. intersectionalist conflict
i agree with the "the hijab is a symbol of patriarchy" argument. morphing that into a choice is amazing to watch unfold, but they're doing it. really making them criticize the concept of "the patriarchy" is a path leading to "mansplaining"
i agree with the "the hijab is a symbol of patriarchy" argument. morphing that into a choice is amazing to watch unfold, but they're doing it. really making them criticize the concept of "the patriarchy" is a path leading to "mansplaining"
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:24 am to Ace Midnight
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intellectual
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Shapiro
I think that’s a little generous.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 10:34 am to Lima Whiskey
he's a HLS graduate (at like 18 or 19 iirc) and has been the main editor of 2 major political publications
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Has he produced unique ideas? Daniel Patrick Moynihan did, Buckley did. Shapiro hasn’t, and it is very unlikely that anyone will remember him in fourty years. He’s a featherweight. They will remember DPM and Buckley though, because of their intellectual contributions to our society.
Like Obama, Shapiro is a Harvard Law graduate, and like Bill Kristol, he’s been an editor. And like both men, his intellectual contributions to society are slight. His books? Polemics.
The biggest difference between Shapiro and people like DPM is his intellectual cowardice. DPM followed the facts, and was more than willing to embrace unpopular conclusions. DPM considered gun control useless, for example. Buckley’s mind buzzed with electricity. Shapiro? Not so much. He is a careful mixture of the attention grabbing, and slavishly dogmatic. He’s the punditocracies version of the straight talk express, and like that effort, it’s a carefully crafted marketing campaign.
Like Obama, Shapiro is a Harvard Law graduate, and like Bill Kristol, he’s been an editor. And like both men, his intellectual contributions to society are slight. His books? Polemics.
The biggest difference between Shapiro and people like DPM is his intellectual cowardice. DPM followed the facts, and was more than willing to embrace unpopular conclusions. DPM considered gun control useless, for example. Buckley’s mind buzzed with electricity. Shapiro? Not so much. He is a careful mixture of the attention grabbing, and slavishly dogmatic. He’s the punditocracies version of the straight talk express, and like that effort, it’s a carefully crafted marketing campaign.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:19 am to Lima Whiskey
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Shapiro? Not so much.
He's a powerful voice for freedom of expression. That's the battleground right now.
I get it - he's Jewish and significantly pro-Israel. I know that just gets under some of your guys' saddles. But setting that aside, he's an important voice of the millennial right, Top 3 certainly.
Posted on 3/24/19 at 11:42 am to Ace Midnight
In a thread based around criticizing leftists for requiring absolute adherence to dogma, it's probably best not to criticize Shapiro for not following strict adherence
Posted on 3/24/19 at 12:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
If you don't want to give that worthless organization clicks, you can read this so called "article" using this archive link:
Archive LINK
Archive LINK
Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:05 pm to TigerNutwhack
banned in New Zealand
Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:05 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
You forgot “dangerous”
Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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banned in New Zealand
Wait, archive links are banned in New Zealand? Holy shite!
Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:16 pm to TigerNutwhack
I read a bit more of the article before I had to just stop. Jeez, it's just complete envy and spite. Instead of living in bitterness and resentment, these journo's should instead try to figure out what it is that guys like Joe Rogan are peddling that the market is craving. (HINT: It's not more ideologically driven bite size media)
Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:16 pm to TigerNutwhack
LINK
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Several websites including Voat, ZeroHedge, Archive.is, LiveLeak, and others have been blocked in Australia and New Zealand in direct contravention to civil liberties that citizens are supposed to have. The biggest of these internet providers, Telstra, has published a blog post defending their censorship action – even acknowledging that free speech has been sacrificed by company decision:
Posted on 3/24/19 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
It’s fakery, he’s taking on the role for reasons that everything to do with marketing and personal vanity. And it’s not in the least bit substantial.
This post was edited on 3/24/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
I am bumping
Mr. "muh institutions" has shown his arse again
Humility in Victory? Naaah.
MUH INSTITUTIONS!
a. i'm sure they're the only media outlet who will keep reporting on this story for the next 2 years
b. did the biased media on the other side somehow not spend the last 2 years reporting on Mueller? so it's not OK now?
again...what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
guess not. Fox is apparently the only institution who is reporting on this
what news media does this guy consume? seriously how can somebody post something so inherently stupid and/or ignorant?
and he has the balls to act like "Fox" or "Trump" is unfairly criticizing the media while he boldly lies about what that media is doing
Mr. "muh institutions" has shown his arse again
Humility in Victory? Naaah.
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The timing of Attorney General William Barr’s summary of the long-awaited Mueller report was frustrating, especially if you were primarily concerned—as I am—with how Fox News would spin it.
MUH INSTITUTIONS!
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So while Dana Perino, Shannon Bream, Bret Baier, and others did a fine job in relaying the details of the summary and establishing its conclusions as very good news for the president, their work left me still wondering: How will the network play the report going forward?
Apparently in the pettiest manner imaginable, judging by Monday morning’s episode of Fox & Friends. More so than any other Fox News show, Fox & Friends embodies the shallow contempt at the heart of the network’s mission. It is President Donald Trump’s favorite program and a matchless conduit for the useful proto-fascist idiocy that so often comprises the network’s daily talking points. Within its first 10 minutes, Fox & Friends had previewed how Fox News will continue to incorporate its interpretation of the Mueller report into its programming through the 2020 elections.
a. i'm sure they're the only media outlet who will keep reporting on this story for the next 2 years
b. did the biased media on the other side somehow not spend the last 2 years reporting on Mueller? so it's not OK now?
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The message to Republicans, however, was this: You won, don’t move on. Hold your own investigations now. Hold the so-called hoaxers and deep state obstructionists accountable. Now is not the time for grace and absolution. Now is the time for retribution. “The question now is: If there was no evidence of collusion, three investigations, no evidence of collusion, who made it up?” Rudy Giuliani asked in the 7 o’clock hour. “It had to come from somewhere. It didn’t just come out of thin air, I want to know who did it, who paid for it, who fueled it. Because the person who did it and the group that did it knows it’s untrue because they invented it.”
again...what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
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The purported “witch hunt” of the Mueller investigation is too powerful a conservative rallying cry for Fox News to abandon it just because Mueller did not end up indicting the president.
guess not. Fox is apparently the only institution who is reporting on this
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The Mueller investigation is a totem for all that Fox has trained its viewers to hate about the media and the left.
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The Barr summary, and the fact that Mueller did not find evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the 2016 elections, now serves to validate and inflame their partisan resentments.
what news media does this guy consume? seriously how can somebody post something so inherently stupid and/or ignorant?
and he has the balls to act like "Fox" or "Trump" is unfairly criticizing the media while he boldly lies about what that media is doing
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:28 am to SlowFlowPro
Slate is rapidly going the way of CNN - irrelevant, unread (unwatched in CNN's case) or, at best, disregarded.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
think about how retarded it is to tie your journalistic integrity to "muh institutions" that have been on record telling lies to the media for almost a century
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