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Since NN is a big topic today I have a question about ISPs.

Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:40 pm
Why won't municipalities get into the ISP business?

For example my municipality provides natural gas. They laid their own natural gas service lines throughout our town. What is preventing them to lay their own fiber and become an internet service provider to the townspeople?
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:41 pm to
A bunch of them have, actually. They are stakeholders in local providers.

Surprisingly, it doesn't reduce costs.....
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:44 pm to
I get it, but the last thing I want is to rely on shitty local municipalities to take care of my internet, especially in this state. These assholes can't even fill potholes properly and promptly.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:44 pm to
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What is preventing them to lay their own fiber and become an internet service provider to the townspeople?
Usually the telecoms will bribe the statehouse to pass laws restricting them. San Antonio has a state of the art fiber network for its government buildings but they're literally outlawed from offering it to the public.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Why won't municipalities get into the ISP business?


Because many don't even adequately fund their own networks, can you imagine how they would fare running an ISP?

With that said though, Lafayette has their shite together.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8518 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:45 pm to
LUS Fiber in Lafayette, had fiber internet for 3 years before I moved away... I was actually very good service and a good price.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:50 pm to
Ever heard of LUSfiber?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Surprisingly, it doesn't reduce costs.....


It did for a lot of people in Lafayette.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:52 pm to
Ever been to Chatanooga?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Because many don't even adequately fund their own networks, can you imagine how they would fare running an ISP?



If it's crappy you move on to another ISP.

quote:

With that said though, Lafayette has their shite together.


Believe it or not parts of New Orleans have excellent service.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:53 pm to
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Ever heard of LUSfiber?


No but good to hear.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Ever been to Chatanooga?


quote:

Chattanooga rolled out a fiber-optic network a few years ago that now offers speeds of up to 1000 Megabits per second, or 1 gigabit, for just $70 a month. A cheaper 100 Megabit plan costs $58 per month. Even the slower plan is still light-years ahead of the average U.S. connection speed, which stood at 9.8 megabits per second as of late last year, according to Akamai Technologies.


Beautiful.

I love competition.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:55 pm to
That's another good example, it worked so well in Nooga that the ISPs freaked out and hey wouldn't you know there's now a law saying they can't expand it to the suburbs
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:56 pm to
But muh free markets
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:56 pm to
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Beautiful.

I love competition.
Comcast sure as hell didn't, they tried to sue the city so they couldn't compete
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:56 pm to
There is LUS as many have pointed out and there are a couple of cities in Texas that got in before the Texas legislature outlawed municipals from providing that service. They are grandfathered now.

The ISP lobby did a good job protecting their turf.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:59 pm to
I have municipal internet in Lafayette (LUS Fiber). It's great. I'm getting like 100 mbps for $50ish a month.


I've also been on the bad side. I lived in a rural Ohio shithole where satellite internet was the only option and we paid $120/mo for 20 mbps but only ever got 2-3 mbps.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

But muh free markets
ISPs are buying local governments to stop this from happening. we have no free market.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:07 pm to
You are preaching to the choir here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:09 pm to
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