re: Since Global Warming is a Settled Science and all

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Solar panels
Helene
Mission Star
Tesla
SolarTech Universal

Wind turbines
GE
Vastas
Siemens

Or do they import?

And way do you feel the need to insult? I have said nothing rude. Why do you resort to that?

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Do you know where Siemens wind turbines are manufactured? Or GE or Vastas?

No you don't. you read crap and regurgitate the same. Siemens and GE do not manufacture on shore. They manufacture in Europe. To meet specific industry demands final assembly on non essential internal components are conducted on US soil. That is not Manufacturing. All of the solar panel manufacturing is the same. The panels made in China and final assembly in the US. That is not US Manufacturing.

Vestas has blade and tower plants in Colorado ....guess where the turbines are manufactured?

Again .... to skirt on shore industry requirements, a specific percentage of assembly must happen in the US.

You made numerous other mistakes in your claims as well.

Where did this so called evidence of CO2 caused global warming originate in a ancient world without industrial CO2 omissions? How did a gradual increase in CO2 Omissions get measured? They didn't occur. The climb was instant and most likely did not involve CO2 at all. The God Father of Climate Change also changed his theory ...too bad you missed the notice. The theory was changed from CO2 to Methane gas, and it had nothing to do with cow farts. The sudden release of tons of CO2 and Methane gas .... repeat "tons of each" has plagued the earth since the beginning of time. All natural occurrences and unstoppable just like the fraud of this recant bout of Climate Change. ....But you applaud the systematic destruction of the economy and millions of lives ....based on a theory .....I suggest curling up with a book from L Ron Hubbard ....you'll get as much from that read as well.

That rational can apply to many things. When is the next war? Don't know? Then no military.
Do you have a 401K? You don't know you will make it that long.
Just look at the numbers. That's all I ask. If you still disagree, then fine, we came to different conclusions.

Unlike you, I was trying to have an actual discussion.

"Or do they import" was a legitimate question. So calm down. But also see my last paragraph because you went on a tangent from what I actually wrote.

I have never said oil was bad. Never. I said we do have climate change. I have mention several websites for scientific study. You have not presented any to the contrary. if you do have them, please let me know. I am open to learning.

I never made the claim manmade CO2 cause the extinction events. I know what many scientists believed that caused them.

You also misunderstood when I mentioned green energy here in the states. I was referring to the sun shines here in the states. The wind blows here in the states. There are tidal forces on our shores. You mentioned manufacturing. Obviously I don't know much about manufacturing these parts but I never said I did. I just followed you down the rabbit hole. My mistake.

Please show me where my claims are incorrect. You are adding your own rage to my statements.

And I did read Battlefield Earth. The first half was decent, but the last half was horrible. None of his other books interest me as a sci-fi fan.

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The theory was changed from CO2 to Methane gas, and it had nothing to do with cow farts. The sudden release of tons of CO2 and Methane gas .... repeat "tons of each"

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The Aliso Canyon blowout vented almost 100,000 tonnes of methane into the atmosphere before it was plugged.

The impact on the climate is said to be the equivalent of the annual emissions of half a million cars.

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BBC Link

California doing it's part to screw up the entire world.

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I mean you do have to realize that the vast majority of those scientists who "study" global warming are getting grants from the government for their work. Kind of wouldnt be in there best interest to say "Hey, nothing going on here"

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It is for that reason alone that are scientists, are nothing better than prostitutes. My favorite interview was immediately after a scientist had published an earth shattering report the same day that the NOAA had admitted to massaging the data, that a young inspired new Journalist took it upon herself to question findings of the scientist. His reply when questioned about the validity of this findings? "Don't blame me I didn't collect the data."

The scientists that specialize in specific fields dispute the findings of scientist who suddenly overnight became "Climate Experts" Polar Bear populations are on the increase and not decreasing as claimed. Glaciers have been growing after several years of decline. A new Penguin population numbering well over one million discovered. Earth scientists discovered their calculations on the number of trees on the planet was off by more than a billion. The ocean is not rising and the coral reefs in Australia are growing and expanding.

I take the study and data of an Oceanographer with decades of experience and measuring sites worldwide over the few hours of a prostitute pounding the keys of a keyboard for two hours ....claiming to be an expert.

But because five hand picked peer review scientists control every paper published by the Paris Accord are the only "EXPERTS" each declining any submittal of counters to the claims by non Climate Scientists .....there is nothing but the trash poured down the throats of followers.

In fact our illustrious defender of the lie ....cannot describe in detail how the myth of 97% occurred ....

Do you know what a King Tide is? The mayor of Miami spent millions on pumps to erase the affects of King Tides that have plagued Miami for hundreds of years. Al Gores mythical "Fish swimming in the streets." King Tide simply put means that the moon and sun are the same side of the planet at the same time along with a high tide condition that causes regional flooding ....it is natural and there isn't a thing that can done in the myth of climate control to prevent it.

You don't have data to support your rhetoric ....you publish fiction, nothing more. Pretending to be a amateur expert. Some of us read and look into the myth ...others watch Discovery channel and CNN. Have to be entertained somehow I guess.

Full transparency, I do not care about global warming. Never did never will and I am not willing to pay more for stuff because of it. In my mind we have a population problem in this world which will only get worse and is the real source of climate problems. I do expect we will all be driving non gas powered cars within ten years so that should help.

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Bluedragon - I would still like for you to show where I was wrong with what I wrote. You disrespected me for statements I did not make. If you have data contrary to what I have, I would like to see it. I am always willing to learn more.

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Having worked in the industry for years and having seen and observed the lies and deceit driven by the Federal Government at the hands of unelected officials in the EPA ....People who are naïve about actually takes place drive me to the edge. For that I will apologize...

The science is a fraud. You cannot simply rely on one sole source of data that is not collecting useful dat. The NOAA deals in ground temperatures only and every one of their reporting stations have been enveloped by cities ove time. The NOAA did not take it upon themselves to move the stations to get accurate data. The assume percentages and manipulate what they gather is a feeble attempt to provide an accurate reading.

Atmosphere data collection cannot be controlled. Jet streams and wind current scatter the build up of CO2 and Methane readings are taken from one point and one point only ....the data is nowhere near consistent.

The Mann Hockey stick was a fraud. His moment in glory ended with him being ostracized by his actions and the University he was working for. His financial support vanished when someone got their hands of the program he created and revealed that hockey and baseball scores produced the same result over and over. Go and read the reports found in the site WUWT "What's Up With That?" Is the best collection of system wide reporting against the false science used in this quest of the UN to redistribute money. Follow individual news reports about actual discoveries and reporting on evidence gathered over years of time, instead of the fiction written by fraud scientists.

As I stated ....I have been on site on 30 wind farms across this country and Canada. I have been on 10 solar farms supposedly providing Mega Watts of power and have worked with Obama's wet dream "First Solar"

Get rid of the notion that the Climate huggers know what will work and what does not .....The only reliable source that is safer than it's original introduction is Nuclear. Wind and Solar doesn't produce in Peak load time periods and unrealizable.

Until you realize how a wind farm produces electricity ...the thought is such that the wind blows and propeller turns......That's not how tons of material is put into motion. Keep this in mind ......A wind farm consumes massive amounts of electricity before one propeller turns. Without a power plant at the end of that transmission line nothing happens. When you don't understand Electric Power and the grid ....anyone with typewriter and pen can convince you of anything they wish. Twenty five years doing this .....

I absolutely believe in global warming. I learned about it in grade school when we studied the Ice Ages and geology. It has been naturally warming ever since the last ice age with minor dips in between. The same thing happened after the previous Ice Age until it turned the other way and resulted in the most recent one. There is no way, however, that man can make any major contribution to the sway the future climate.

WIKI:
There have been five or six major ice ages in the history of Earth over the past 3 billion years. The Late Cenozoic Ice Age began 34 million years ago, its latest phase being the Quaternary glaciation, in progress since 2.58 million years ago.

Within ice ages, there exist periods of more severe glacial conditions and more temperate conditions, referred to as glacial periods and interglacial periods, respectively. The Earth is currently in such an interglacial period of the Quaternary glaciation, with the last glacial period of the Quaternary having ended approximately 11,700 years ago. The current interglacial is known as the Holocene epoch. LINK

There is no way, however, that man can make any major contribution to the sway the future climate.

I disagree with that strong of a statement but I would seem petty and over the top with examples. Deforestation, nuclear war, man-made disasters, etc. Maybe I am taking my examples to the extreme but your statement was really strong and in bold ...

Legit question - Do you have sources you trust that state where we are in the ice age cycle? I get answers all over the place from we are still exiting one to we are entering one.

The discovery of fire was not the cause of the last ice age declining and our current climate.