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re: Silencers and short barrel rifles are back on the menu
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:27 pm to UptownJoeBrown
Posted on 10/11/26 at 11:27 pm to UptownJoeBrown
i bought my suppressor online from silencer shop. got it around 10 years ago for my G21 .45 caliber.
put it in a gun trust to escape some reporting and red tape. took forever to get ATF to approve me and get it registered. like a 8 month wait. have the tax stamp still in my safe.
at least now we do not have to worry about any of that crap.
put it in a gun trust to escape some reporting and red tape. took forever to get ATF to approve me and get it registered. like a 8 month wait. have the tax stamp still in my safe.
at least now we do not have to worry about any of that crap.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 2:43 am to deeprig9
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what extent do supressors affect aim?
Broad question.
First is whether the can is big enough in diameter to obstruct your sights. If so, will need to replace sights, or usie a riser mount if using an optic.
Second is weight. This is a bonus, and a detriment. The bonus is that the extra weight helps to control muzzle flip. (The decrease in spent gasses at the muzzle helps control muzzle flip too)
The weight can cause a slight decrease in stability. Depending upon how the weapon is balanced, and how the can shifts the center of balance. But its not something that is totally going to break your training. Rapid fire groups may widen out some.
Essentially... Shooter will stay closer to on target but may be a bit wobbly at holding the target when sighting.
Suppressors do affect velocity, which affects range. So point of impact will shift. Have to rezero an optic, or dope your targeting with irons.
Decreased muzzle flash.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 2:49 am to Squirrelmeister
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not a lawyer, but this court injunction prohibiting the mandatory registration of SBRs, SBSs, and suppressors is permanent. The case cannot be appealed - that time allotted for appeal has elapsed. So a new law would have to be passed or a new case would have to be taken up in the courts that would potentially supersede this injunction
The injunction is nowhere as broad as the ATF decision however. It has a certain range of companies and customers that it covers. Unlike the rule reversal that is in effect to the general population, nationwide.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 2:58 am to OMWsux
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Sincere question…what happens if the next administration’s ATF wants to reinforce the tax stamp for suppressors? How would that be addressed?
I understand this issue is working through the federal courts and would assume it reaches SCOTUS before final rulings.
That's actually a great question.
It's a bureaucrat decision. The next bureaucrat to head the ATF can reverse it.
In which case, those who don't have the tax stamp will need to get one.
And they (can't) change the law mandating the tax stamp. The executive decision is to not prosecute for those not having one. Nor does this affect laws under the Gun Control Act (GCA) or exempt an owner, manufacturer, or seller from state laws regarding NFA items.
For those interested, here is the ATF's official Q+A about this. It's actually pretty good. Answers a lot.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/update-to-nfa-transfer-guidance
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 2:59 am
Posted on 10/12/26 at 3:06 am to Megasaurus
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future administration's DOJ can appeal this ruling and can put alot of folks in no-man's land if they reverse course (no laws have been changed under this ruling, the appelllate court can strike down the district court ruling). Hopefully, we'll get some permanent info soon
The time for an appeal has run out. DOJ said they were not going to follow through (surrendered the case) as the time limit was about to expire. So this particular case is done. (Which also means no chance of a SCOTUS ruling to codify
) So we are safe, as far as that goes.
However, the decision itself is an executive decision. The next or down the line Director or acting Director at ATF can reverse it.
At which time the bureaucrats will dictate to us what hoops we have to jump through and how long we have to do it, before they decide to turn millions of us into felons again.
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 3:07 am
Posted on 10/12/26 at 3:20 am to Squirrelmeister
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your state allows you to skip the NICS check which is a means of complying with the background check
I really wish more states would jump on board with this.
As far as I know I think there is 8 states that do this.
I keep pointing out to state officials that our neighbors in Kansas have this, and we should not be outdone by our neighbors.
However... We have 2 solid dems in office. So yeah....
Posted on 10/12/26 at 6:57 am to deeprig9
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To what extent do supressors affect aim?
They don't
Posted on 10/12/26 at 7:17 am to OMWsux
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Sincere question…what happens if the next administration’s ATF wants to reinforce the tax stamp for suppressors? How would that be addressed? I understand this issue is working through the federal courts and would assume it reaches SCOTUS before final rulings.
Would it be smart to buy whatever you want now, walk out with it then have the gun shop do the tax stamp paperwork? That way if another admin reverses you won’t have to jump through hoops with millions of other people.
Not sure if this is even an option anymore.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 7:29 am to Rize
I think this is a solid approach. Get it in hand and let the review process work behind the scenes. All while the tax stamp is $0. Get the best of both worlds. If it changes in the future you are covered.
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