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re: Should Women Be Eligible If Draft is Reinstated?

Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:26 pm to
If women had been in power, they damn sure never would have tolerated 58,000 women dying in Viet Nam while the men stayed home.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:27 pm to
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My issue with the draft is that if you're male, you are required to register with selective service. If you don't this bars you from student loans, many jobs, etc.

Women don't have this requirement. Why?


Why did 58,000 men die in Viet Nam while women remained thousands of miles away back home living in comfort?
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Agree. And same thing for a country that chooses a woman to lead them. Ridiculous.


I’m not SJW by any means, but you do realize you just outed yourself as more misogynist than Pakistan, right?
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:29 pm to
Why do you hate women?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18567 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:31 pm to
Yes. In the past women needed to stay home and give birth to the future generations.

Now, it's generally accepted for women to abort their babies. If women aren't going to shoulder the responsibility of giving birth to the future generations.. then they can get drafted as well.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29223 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Why do you hate women?



Why are you stupid?

How is it hating women to point out the perfectly obvious point that if women were in power, they would not allow their ranks to bear the brunt of the deaths while males remained unscathed? The fact that men willingly would do this is comical.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:32 pm to
Did Private Benjamin not teach us anything?



Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13761 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Should Women Be Eligible If Draft is Reinstated?


Sure...we are all dead anyway if a draft is ever needed again.

There will never be another draft. That would mean we've lost most of our Navy and air force....and that's assuming nuclear war has not started.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 1:39 pm to
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As another poster put it, in a true traditionalist Christian society women would forgo careers to be mothers and housewives.


And a primitive society it would be:

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From January to June 2017, athenahealth surveyed 18,000 physicians at 3,500 practices on its network, and determined that more than 60 percent of physicians under the age of 35 are female, while just under 40 percent are male. In the next-highest age bracket (35 to 44 years of age), women are the dominant gender as well – just slightly – coming in at 51.5 percent


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The women labourers were surprisingly important to the canal's engineering. Many came from former Roman bath colonies in the Pyrenees, where elements of classical hydraulics had been maintained as a living tradition. They were employed at first to move earth to the dam at Saint Ferréol, but their supervisors, who were struggling to design the channels from the dam to the canal, recognized their expertise. Engineering in this period was mainly focused on fortress construction, and hydraulics was concerned mostly with mining and problems of drainage. Building a navigational canal across the continent was well beyond the formal knowledge of the military engineers expected to supervise it, but the peasant women who were carriers of classical hydraulic methods added to the repertoire of available techniques. They not only perfected the water supply system for the canal but also threaded the waterway through the mountains near Béziers, using few locks, and built the eight-lock staircase at Fonserannes.[14]


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Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 2:49 pm to
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From January to June 2017, athenahealth surveyed 18,000 physicians at 3,500 practices on its network, and determined that more than 60 percent of physicians under the age of 35 are female, while just under 40 percent are male. In the next-highest age bracket (35 to 44 years of age), women are the dominant gender as well – just slightly – coming in at 51.5 percent


Does it do breakdown by gender per role of physician.

Most women in medical school are doing things like pediatrician or physical therapy. Absolutely necessary jobs, but they are generally considered the 'easier' medical professions.

I'm not knocking them. Im glad people do those jobs. But men tend to complete the harder medical professions like surgeon more often.

Look. I'm not misogynistic. I believe in equal rights.

What I'm saying is that equal rights aren't being pushed anymore. It's the same argument made with Affirmative Action. It's no longer a meritocracy when there is special treatment involved.
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:20 pm to
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What I'm saying is that equal rights aren't being pushed anymore. It's the same argument made with Affirmative Action. It's no longer a meritocracy when there is special treatment involved.


I don’t know of anything like affirmative action (which I’m against) being pushed for women. Can you give an example?

ETA: I’m not surprised more surgeons are men. The training alone takes up a lot of, what for women, are reproductive years. Further, surgeon is a physically demanding job. The average women is not as physically strong as the average man. Accordingly, surgeons are paid more than other physicians. Additionally, it is these physical differences that makes drafting women preposterous. I appreciate the strength of males. I also can’t countenance extending these physical advantages into an argument for relegating women into secondary intellectual roles.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:59 pm to
National Organization for Women

Alrighht, here's the deal.

Women are the number 1 beneficiaries of Affirmative Action programs.

The idea that Affirmative Action primarily benefits minorities is a half truth at best and propoganda at worst. It may have had the 'intent' to benefit minorities, but even feminist groups ( some of which oppose it) will admit that it primarily benefits white women.

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Ironically, the group that affirmative action helps the most is also one of its most stringent opponents. Statistics show that white women benefit immensely from affirmative action, but according to Vox, they are also among those who most want to see it abolished.

The numbers prove it: After two decades of affirmative action, it was white women who held the majority of managerial jobs, compared to African American, Latino, and Asian American women (the supposed beneficiaries of these policies), according to a 1995 report by the California Senate Government Organization Committee. Across the board, affirmative action helped women obtain success in the labor market. Today, women are more educated and successful in the workforce than ever before, while married women are taking over as household breadwinners.

The news that the Trump administration wants to challenge affirmative action comes just over a year after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the admission policies of the University of Texas at Austin, after a white woman, Abigail Fisher, sued the school for rejecting her admissions application. She claimed that applicants of color who were less qualified but whose racial backgrounds were included in the university's review process took her slot.

After a lengthy court battle, the Supreme Court ruled 4-3 that UT's admission policies were indeed constitutional — a major win for affirmative action.




Posted by Category5
Member since Mar 2019
295 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 2:13 am to
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Then our laws SHOULD reflect that. 

Laws can't change a biological XX to a biological XY but they can help someone decide which bathroom to use.
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We poor millions into making sure one side has essentially more opportunities and less stressors (drafting, etc.) and dump all costs and actually work on the other side. 

Which side has more opportunities and less stressors?

What are the opportunities one side has that the other doesn't?

How are the stressors decreased?

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Men are keeping their end of the bargain as far traditional male roles. Women have abandoned theirs.

This is a sweeping generalization about men and women.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:34 am to
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Women don't have this requirement. Why?



I'm sorry your feelings are hurt, but the military doesn't need more women.
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