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re: Should the mentally ill Trans extremists be able to purchase a firearm?

Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:31 pm to
You know, if we had some people who were dedicated to "just asking questions", that's exactly what they would be posting about.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 7:32 pm
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:32 pm to
This construct of yours neither labels nor explains your particular stance on the agenda?

I hope this helps...
Posted by Average_Comments
ATX
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:33 pm to
We stopped funding mental health in the 80's under Reagan. It's not coming back..
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 7:34 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:33 pm to
So honest question, do we just roll over and allow them to do this or do we form vigilante groups?

Because it seems right and left are uniformly set on doing anything, but dealing with the actual problem, violent trans psychos. Just like we saw 25 years ago when they used every word in the dictionary other than militant Islamic extremist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:34 pm to
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This construct of yours neither labels nor explains your particular stance on the agenda?


frick red flag laws.

Our resident conspiracy theorists are showing that they're more partisan sheep than the free thinkers that they fashion themselves as.

This shooter was nucking futs and all over the place
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13156 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:41 pm to
Let's confabulate a secerino to the agenda in jest.

If we, as a nation in the 18th century, were to condone sales of Winchesters to the Red Savages (as they were), what's the difference in Democratic insugengence here?

Think before sardonic meandering...
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2697 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:34 pm to
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Do I support Gun Control?


Red Flag Laws already exist. I am saying that being Trans is a mental illness and should exclude them from owning weapons. I am only playing the game the Left does.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2697 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:37 pm to
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The Left are setting this up for gun confiscation.


I think you might be right. I wouldn't put it past Democrats killing children just to get their way.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:38 pm to
They already proudly kill children…
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:45 pm to
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What about political extremists?


No the problem is undiagnosed mental illness. Homosexuality and gender dysphoria.

A queer in the New Orleans area killed 23 men with his hands.
Are guns the problem - or is undiagnosed mental illness the problem?

Just you powerbottom.

Get help.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10312 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:00 pm to
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The Left are always going on about changing things to stop mass shootings. A good start would be stopping the sales of firearms to mentally ill trans extremists who are actively targeting Christians and children in schools. The Extreme Leftist who committed this atrocity from today was inspired by Audrey Hale. The Rainbow Flag is a hate symbol.


Well, this is the thing.

I personally feel that true gender dysphoria is a mental illness. I don't say that with any condemnation, but rather compassion. Those people need real help, and they aren't getting it. Which means that their illness progresses.

I can't think of any other condition associated with such a gigantic propensity for suicidal ideation that isn't classified as a mental illness. For example, the research shows that people with persistent depression (Major Depression) have a lifetime occurrence of suicidal ideation from 33% up to as high as 58%.

For people with gender dysphoria the range starts at around 50% and goes as high as 80%.

That means that as many as eight out of ten people with gender dysphoria have suicidal ideation. And a whole lot of them act on it.

Just that propensity alone should disqualify them from purchasing a gun, since 60% of the 30,000 some-odd gun deaths every year are suicides.

They do NOT need firearms. If GD was still properly classified as a mental illness, as it used to be (and not that long ago, either), it could serve as a useful screening mechanism to keep guns out of the hands of people who might be unstable.

But the left had it re-classified and removed from the DSM.

Just one more way that they aren't really trying to help these people, they are using them.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 11:10 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10312 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:01 pm to
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This shooter was nucking futs


Oh, that's true. I read the suicide note and that was my conclusion as well.

But you know what the first clue to figuring that out should have been?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10312 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:05 pm to
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First they support socialism because Trump said to, now gun control… what’s next?


Do you not think mentally ill people should represent an exception to the 2nd amendment?

Again, we're talking about a population that has suicidal ideation at a rate as high as 80%.

There's no way it's not a mental illness, and if that doesn't qualify you to be classified as a person "who might be a danger to yourself or others," I don't know what does.

The 2nd Amendment is a bit unique in that—even though it's a right and not a privilege—it has some characteristics that are more like a privilege than many rights.

Like obtaining a driver's license, for example. You don't get a driver's license if you can't pass the eye test because you will likely hurt someone...yourself or someone else.

Even if driving were a right and not a privilege, I don't think we would expect that a person still had a right to drive on public roads if they were blind.

To me the 2nd Amendment issue is similar.

I get why people do not like that...I get that the fear is that the government will abuse it and take guns away from people who shouldn't be exceptions to the 2nd.

But at some point I think there needs to be a line. We already draw that line with convicted felons, some of who were not even convicted of violent offenses.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 11:39 pm
Posted by geauxtigers
biloxi ms
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:12 pm to
frick no
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:18 pm to
If trannies we’re in mental institutions where they belong we wouldn’t have to worry about whether or not they have guns
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:40 am to
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If they are it is already working. The Right is now arguing for red flag laws.

Only because this time it was a tranny

When it's anyone else the mentally ill need treatment

When it's trannies the mentally ill (only the mentally ill trannies) need to be locked up before a crime is committed
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170477 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:41 am to
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So honest question, do we just roll over and allow them to do this or do we form vigilante groups?


Vigilante groups to do what exactly? Most of these shooters don't walk out alive. Are you suggesting that you go start hunting down trannies and killing them even if they haven't done anything wrong?

What sort of stupid shite is this?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41994 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 3:16 am to
Get them before they get you. ?

Either they take out a bunch of innocent kids or they don’t.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22876 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 3:40 am to
If the mentally ill trans extremists are locked up in an insane asylum as they should be, they will have no opportunity to purchase a firearm.
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
3709 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:18 am to
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limiting access to weapons (all weapons) from mentally deranged individuals,


I’d be in favor of taking guns away from the majority of posters on this board.
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