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re: Should Stone be pardoned now or later?

Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:36 pm to
If Stone can remain free while it goes through the appeal process, then hold off on the pardon pending it being overturned on appeal. If not, then Trump should pardon immediately. The lefties are going to whine and mewl about it no matter when Trump does it and it's not like he's going to get the votes of those skyscreamers anyway.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Does the Gag Order on Stone now go away,


It's still in effect right now.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:37 pm to
he should tweet the following; "listen, tell Roger that I will have more flexibility after my election."
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

then hold off on the pardon pending it being overturned on appeal.


The appeal is going to have the same outcome.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9255 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

. If A new trial is ordered Barr could then choose to drop the case and move on.


That is not going to happen if he doesn't take control of the DC US Attorney's office which still has a lot of Mueller's prosecutors running wild there and have it out for Stone.

Hell, I doubt that Barr agrees with a pardon for Stone anyway.

The only correct answer to this mess is is a Pardon for Roger Stone.

All of you afraid of pardoning Stone need to stop being a little chickenshit about it. The people opposed to it hate Trump anyway. Let them howl about it anyway.


I don't think anyone's afraid of Trump pardoning Stone, but the question is asked is now or later. I suggest later to make the optics look a little better.

If Trump pardon's Stone right now after the Judge gave Barr's new team the sentence they asked for then it's not a good look.

Patience is a good thing sometimes. Let's get past the Nevada Caucus and South Carolina primary and see hoe things look. The Dems are eating themselves and let's not take away from that.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38838 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:47 pm to
I think that one of the reasons Barrett put that Gag Order on Stone is because - regardless of Stone's character - he is lethal with words. If Stone is able to make Trump Rallys, telling how they kicked his door in a put military weaponry in his wife's face...that will be effective.

Stone can rip Barrett and that Jury Foreperson into shreds; and not with slanderous supposition...but with facts.

Trump should get Stone on the campaign trail asap. Let Stone play his 'victim' card against the Dem's 'criminal' card. IMO...Stone wins. Dude is a seasoned politico.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13123 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:48 pm to
Maybe he should wait and pardon Stone and Avenatti at the same time. The democrats would be so confused they wouldn't know what to say.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

I suggest later to make the optics look a little better.


Trump doesn't give a shite about optics. He either does something or he doesn't.

And that should apply to Roger Stone as well.

Pardon Roger Stone.

My god, you people are being so yellow bellied about this.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9255 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

quote:
I suggest later to make the optics look a little better.


Trump doesn't give a shite about optics. He either does something or he doesn't.

And that should apply to Roger Stone as well.

Pardon Roger Stone.

My god, you people are being so yellow bellied about this.



Let me try this again. The OP asked a question. Now or Later? No one is questioning Trump's mettle. This was a board question asking for peoples thoughts and they are sharing them. No need to go "Bernie Bros" just because you disagree. I get it. You want Trump to go nuclear. Some are suggesting a little pause before dropping the hammer.

Lighten up Francis!
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Some are suggesting a little pause before dropping the hammer.


And I say to them that it will not make one bit of difference whatsoever.

The people opposed to the pardon hate Trump anyway and were never going to vote for him.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3953 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:56 pm to
please pardon him today to swing a few more Independent voters to vote against the King of the US. Go ahead and pardon all other wealthy white males too.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18188 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:59 pm to
Pardon him now. frick waiting.

Congress will continue illegally harassing the potus and those around him regardless of what he does. The msm will continue to scream at him regardless. The voters that will vote for him, will still vote for him regardless of what he does here.

The intelligence agencies will continue to illegally spy on him and leak shite to the media, regardless of what he does.

Stone is a loyal guy who was only pinched because he was caught up in the illegal coupe against a sitting president, orchestrated by our permanent government. Pardon him. Don't force him to wait.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
154601 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:01 pm to
No. Oliver Stone should rot in prison.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9255 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

quote:
Some are suggesting a little pause before dropping the hammer.


And I say to them that it will not make one bit of difference whatsoever.

The people opposed to the pardon hate Trump anyway and were never going to vote for him.


That may very well be true, but even you have to agree it would probably give AG Barr some wiggle room. Right now he's in a tough spot and even Trump said he's not making his job easy.

I don't give a shite what the press thinks about Trump, but Barr is a good and loyal AG that deserves some space to breath.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:04 pm to
ETA: WTF downvotes Sharon Stone showing her cooch?

Buncha fricking queers up in here.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:06 pm to
Here is an idea

Don’t post irrelevant bullshite when you lack the wit to connect it to the topic
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9255 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:06 pm to
quote:


Should Stone be pardoned now or later?
ETA: WTF downvotes Sharon Stone showing her cooch?

Buncha fricking queers up in here.


LOL..You must of seen "The Goods"

LINK
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Here is an idea...


Here's a quarter...



...go buy a fricking sense of humor.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

your heroes

I'm not sure who you're talking about, most of my heroes are dead.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162995 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:10 pm to
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