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re: Should race matter to Christians?
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:47 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:47 am to FooManChoo
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It's not about conversions. It's about more idolaters influencing communities with their false beliefs and worship.
You ignored everything I posted.
An insular non-Christian population who isn't trying to convert Christians will not do this in terms of religion.
If you're arguing that non-Christians engaging in non-religious behavior is somehow a bad influence, then you're making Christians into the mentally weakest population in the history of the earth. Secular behavior is not relevant to this discussion.
If a Hindu or Muslim teaches your child that 2 + 2 = 4, they're transmitting secular, objective facts. It matters not what religion they are. That information is not somehow tainted because it flowed from a non-believer.
Even for you, this take is insane.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:48 am to Azkiger
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Okay, I'll hold your hand.
Census data tells us that women, on average, have around 2 children by the time they reach 45-50 (end of their child bearing years). It also tells us that about 15% of women do not have children.
Simple math says:
2/.85=2.35
So, excluding the women who do not have children, American women are above replacement rate.
So American men are well below replacement rate and women are “well above” replacement rate?
No men have children. Not all women have children but the ones who do have an average of 2. And you interpret that to mean American couples who have kids have well above 2 kids per couple?
I’m missing something here.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 8:50 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:49 am to Azkiger
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So, excluding the women who do not have children, American women are above replacement rate.
Dude...
And you post this in response to this question
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Do you have any data to back this up, specifically the "overwhelming conservative" part?
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conservative women were reporting 1.4 children and 1.09 for liberals.
Both are below the replacement rate.
Both are below Hispanic birth rates.
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And you also completely dodged open borders/mass illegal immigration like a good little liberal would.
Well you need a grasp on this data first. I'm sure you would inflate the number of illegals and then we'd have to go down that rabbit hole.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:50 am to UtahCajun
Did I say that white women are having enough children, or did I save conservative women are having enough children?
Don't respond immediately. I want you to think about that question for at least 30 seconds.
Don't respond immediately. I want you to think about that question for at least 30 seconds.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:50 am to 4cubbies
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I’m missing something here.
You're not
He's flailing
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Both are below the replacement rate.
That survey included 18 year old women. How many 18 year old women have had all the children they're going to have?
That survey included 19 year old women. How many 19 year old women have had all the children they're going to have?
That survey included 20 year old women. How many 20 year old women have had all the children they're going to have?
Aren't you suppose to be the data man?
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:51 am to Azkiger
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or did I save conservative women are having enough children?
They're not.
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conservative women were reporting 1.4 children
That's quoting you.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:52 am to Azkiger
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That survey included 18 year old women. How many 18 year old women have had all the children they're going to have?
That survey included 19 year old women. How many 19 year old women have had all the children they're going to have?
That survey included 20 year old women. How many 20 year old women have had all the children they're going to have?
Aren't you suppose to be the data man?
Do you think 18-20 year olds are removed from birth rate data, generally?
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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Do you think 18-20 year olds are removed from birth rate data, generally?
You specifically quoted me linking a survey of women aged 18+.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 8:54 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:56 am to SlowFlowPro
So now that we've established that yes, conservative women are reproducing much more than liberal women, AND that women are more liberal in general, AND that liberals are the reason for tens of millions of illegals in our country, we can now see the reason/justification in my statement that this demographics change can be laid at the feet of liberals is, without a doubt, 100% correct.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:56 am to Azkiger
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Why are you including the criteria "generally"
Well you had been trying to split this up into different population cohorts, so I was just bringing it back to the full picture.
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when you specifically quoted me linking a survey of women aged 18+?
Birthrate data, generally, includes 18 year olds
Whatever argument you want to use for 18 year olds in that survey applies to all other birthdate data for our for our entire population (or by race).
You aren't making a point by trying to isolate 18 year olds.
I can't make this argument anymore clear/simple for you
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:56 am to Azkiger
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Don't respond immediately. I want you to think about that question for at least 30 seconds
Your own post shows that white conservative women are not having enough.
Your homework for today is:
Read your post. Think about that post. Understand that post. Then come back and say "I was wrong" tomorrow.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 8:58 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:57 am to Azkiger
Liberals are taking over the country and there’s nothing you can do about it?
Was that your whole point?
Was that your whole point?
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:57 am to Azkiger
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So now that we've established that yes, conservative women are reproducing much more than liberal women,
Below the replacement level
Below Hispanics
Again, "white everybody" still applies.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 8:59 am to UtahCajun
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Your own post shows that white conservative women are not having enough.
1.) I never broke it down by race.
2.) It shows conservatives women/families specificaly are at/above replacement rate.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 9:02 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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Below the replacement level
Even if I accept this, conservatives potentially being .1 or .2 below replacement rate doesn't explain why the white population, within two generations, has dropped from ~80% to ~55%.
And my stats showed conservative women at replacement rate.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:02 am to Azkiger
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1.) I never broke it down by race.
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2.) It shows conservatives women/families specificaly are above replacement rate.
1.4 is not above replacement rate
2.1-2.3 is the replacement rate
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:02 am to Azkiger
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1.) I never broke it down by race.
2.) It shows conservatives women/families specificaly are above replacement rate
This entire thread is about race my baw. Specifically about the white race.
I was kidding about that homework btw. Just relax, watch some football and try, like me, to forget that loss last night.
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:03 am to Azkiger
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Even if I accept this, conservatives potentially being .1 or .2 below replacement rate doesn't explain why the white population, within two generations, has dropped from ~80% to ~55%.
It does. Run the math
And it's not 0.1 or 0.2
White conservatives, per your data, are at only 61% of the replacement rate (and falling every year).
1.4 / 2.3 = 0.60869
If you want to go the high end, it's 66.7%
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 9:04 am
Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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I never broke it down by race.
I never broke my stats down by race.
Utah said my stats showed racial breakdowns. My stats did not.
You're a lawyer, right? You should be following this easily.
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1.4 is not above replacement rate
Yeah you're just being dishones there.
That 1.4 number included women under 25/30. I've already told you this.
Also, it showed original claim to be true. Conservatives are easily our reproducing liberals.
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