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re: Should Joe Biden be immune from prosecution for taking bribes while in office?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Oh I purposefully said "I don't think".
I'm tracking with you. Not slinging the arrows with the crowd.
We are going to learn something though.
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Absolute immunity means absolute immunity.
Does it?
I would suggest that’s not the case.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
You got turned down by another guy…
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:44 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Trump committed no crimes. Joe absolutely did. That's the fly in the ointment that is this clowns argument.
You’re a simpleton. Your premise is stupid. Assuming one is guilty and one is innocent is a farce.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:45 pm to texridder
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You’re a simpleton. You’re premise is stupid
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’ll play along. Yes, Biden is immune from federal prosecution while in office. The point of immunity is to prevent a political DOJ from taking out a political opponent. If Biden is taking bribes, the appropriate course of action is impeachment. If he is impeached, he can then be tried as a regular citizen as he is no longer President.
If he is not impeached, there is clearly not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to support prosecution.
Also, autism is a crippling disease.
If he is not impeached, there is clearly not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to support prosecution.
Also, autism is a crippling disease.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:00 pm to texridder
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Assuming one is guilty and one is innocent is a farce.
An assumption?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
As president?
Yes.
Any other office?
No
Yes.
Any other office?
No
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Absolute immunity means absolute immunity.
Once more SFP…are you going to stand by the above statement by you?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No bribery is specifically mentioned in the Constitution
For impeachment. I'm talking about criminal prosecution pursuant to the federal code.
The proper answer is no. To allow prosecution for crimes supposedly committed while President opens up the door for the type of partisan witch hunts that Democrats are particularly fond of, not realizing they themselves could also someday be subjected to. If Biden is involved in bribery, impeach him. But weaponising the judicial system in partisan court proceedings (especially in states that are fiercely biased) is a bad pathway to take. This is how the country will become hopelessly divided, and people lose faith in the entire system.
ETA: Besides the people knew Biden was corrupt when they "elected" him.
No bribery is specifically mentioned in the Constitution
For impeachment. I'm talking about criminal prosecution pursuant to the federal code.
The proper answer is no. To allow prosecution for crimes supposedly committed while President opens up the door for the type of partisan witch hunts that Democrats are particularly fond of, not realizing they themselves could also someday be subjected to. If Biden is involved in bribery, impeach him. But weaponising the judicial system in partisan court proceedings (especially in states that are fiercely biased) is a bad pathway to take. This is how the country will become hopelessly divided, and people lose faith in the entire system.
ETA: Besides the people knew Biden was corrupt when they "elected" him.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:18 pm to jimmy the leg
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are you going to stand by the above statement by you?
That absolute immunity means absolute immunity? Absolutely
Note: I don't think the President is absolutely immune from criminal prosecution, and I think textualism will have to be discarded to rule that way.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:19 pm to NC_Tigah
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The electorate would speak to that
Naw. Biden is President
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Biden is President
Enough nuance debated in this thread to argue he is not
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:22 pm to lsuguy84
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Enough nuance debated in this thread to argue he is not
Naw that's the thread saying Babbit is alive
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
He has to be convicted by impeachment, not by a court of law, but you should know that.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
JJJJJJJimmy…nah
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:23 pm to Auburn1968
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but you should know that.
Why?
Cite me the Supreme Court case saying that
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:24 pm to lsuguy84
I think he claims I am up to 11 alters, or I'm one of cwill's 11 alters I forget. Was 7 for a while.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:24 pm to LSU2ALA
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It’s a logical gotcha as it’s the natural endpoint of Trump’s argument that the president has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for acts taken while president.
The answer to the original question is no. Biden should not be immune and Trump should not be immune. If the president has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution, then that’s a major failure of our system.
Only Congress via the impeachment process can try and convict a President.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
You’re cubbies as well
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