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Should FL revoke Disney special privileges and leave it at that?

Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:13 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:13 am
Let the free market reign and let people decide if the Disney culture is right for their kids or not.

Even the playing field between Disney and Universal and move on. Keep the Government out of businesses. Actual small Government type of stuff.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:17 am to
They actively waded into politics against the elected government and legislature who were protecting kids.





Photoshop Ron on here
Posted by thejuiceisloose
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:20 am to
You go at the Mouse and you best not miss
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:21 am to
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They actively waded into politics


Every business in America does now so by your standard we should start using Government power to abuse the ones that we don't agree with politically.

So should we start seeking to punish Bud Light and Target with whatever means the Government can legally?


Posted by RammerJammer91
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:22 am to

"Leave Mickey Mouse and Disney alone!" -Donald Trump Jr. (Probably)
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 9:24 am
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:23 am to
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So should we start seeking to punish Bud Light and Target with whatever means the Government can legally



Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:24 am to
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Every business in America does now so by your standard we should start using Government power to abuse the ones that we don't agree with politically.

So should we start seeking to punish Bud Light and Target with whatever means the Government can legally?


Removing special privileges is not punishment.

What's the old saying: "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:25 am to
So you would be cool when Dems start coming after a conservative company like Hobby Lobby or Chick-fil-A?

Very small Government conservative of you, Adam.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:25 am to
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Every business in America does now so by your standard we should start using Government power to abuse the ones that we don't agree with politically.


How is Florida abusing Disney? They are attempting to make them play by the same rules everyone else is. Seems fair.

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So should we start seeking to punish Bud Light and Target with whatever means the Government can legally?



If a company is attempting to indoctrinate children and make them victims to pedo's and groomers? 100% Absolutely YES. There is no moving from that line.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:26 am to
I'm sure you consider yourself a small gov conservative too right?
Posted by RammerJammer91
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:27 am to
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So you would be cool when Dems start coming after a conservative company like Hobby Lobby or Chick-fil-A?



Dems have been targeting Chick-Fil-A for a while. Dems literally want the Colorado baker and his staff to be out on the streets.

They started this, we're just playing by their rules. Why should we sit by while they try and destroy businesses over politics?
Posted by Motownsix
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:28 am to
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a company is attempting to indoctrinate children and make them victims to pedo's and groomers? 100% Absolutely YES. There is no moving from that line.


By that logic the tax exemption enjoyed by the Catholic Church (all churches) should have been removed decades ago.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:28 am to
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Removing special privileges is not punishment.



I agree. I am glad they are gone but Ron has admitted why he did it and it was politically motivated. That shouldn't be the standard is my point. FL was fine with the special privileges until Disney went against them politically.

Once the lawsuits are settled, and everything is settled, FL should move on but it's not appearing as if they will and things look more vengeful every day.

Posted by TomJoadGhost
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:30 am to
I don’t believe it’s as easy as just revoking their status, or they’d have already done that.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:30 am to
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By that logic the tax exemption enjoyed by the Catholic Church (all churches) should have been removed decades ago.


Your terms are acceptable. (and I'm Catholic)

Posted by Leto II
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:30 am to
Yes. Definitely punish one of he largest businesses in the state. It's not like FL needs that tourist money anyway!
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:31 am to
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How is Florida abusing Disney? They are attempting to make them play by the same rules everyone else is. Seems fair.



I am OK with this

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If a company is attempting to indoctrinate children and make them victims to pedo's and groomers? 100% Absolutely YES. There is no moving from that line.



If they break the law then I agree but there is no law against Target selling trans clothes and no law against BL putting a trans on their can.

I am the biggest trans hater on this board but I am also never for Government intervention using a grey area to interfere and basing that on feelings. Either something is against the law or it's not.

Can you tell me what Target and BL did that was illegal? Disney too while you are at it.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 9:35 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:34 am to
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Dems have been targeting Chick-Fil-A for a while. Dems literally want the Colorado baker and his staff to be out on the streets.



Dem individuals have yes.

The CO baker won several appeals including an appeal with the SC. Individuals started the lawsuits against him and courts interpreted the law.

I am talking about the actual State or Federal Government going after you over your business practices.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:36 am to
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I agree. I am glad they are gone but Ron has admitted why he did it and it was politically motivated. That shouldn't be the standard is my point. FL was fine with the special privileges until Disney went against them politically.

Once the lawsuits are settled, and everything is settled, FL should move on but it's not appearing as if they will and things look more vengeful every day.


The examples you gave about Hobby Lobby and Chick-Fil-A are bad, because they don't get any special privileges that I am aware of. But any business that gets special privileges granted by POLITICIANS, should perhaps be careful about getting into POLITICAL battles.

The revoking (for political reasons) of special privileges (granted for political reasons) is not the small government issue you think it is.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:36 am to
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I agree. I am glad they are gone but Ron has admitted why he did it and it was politically motivated.


False. It was morally motivated. He just happened to have the power of government to remove special privileges from the company that sought to vicimize the most vulnerable.

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Once the lawsuits are settled, and everything is settled, FL should move on but it's not appearing as if they will and things look more vengeful every day.


Well, when you have a mega-corporation like Disney actively lying about legislation that was passed to protect children, then yeah, things get ugly.

And let's not pretend that this current era of corporatocracy is just some mom and pop trying to operate their businesses honestly.

We are at a new age of politics where business and politics are 1. Often, corporate ideology align with leftist government. So when we have a leftist government essentially giving out talking points to major corporations to punish or attack anyone that is not aligned with leftists, then those corporations need to be reigned in. Or else, you will be left with a shell of a constitution because these corporations are not subject to constitutional limitations of government.
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