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re: Short, comprehensive video of what happened in Minneapolis ICE shooting

Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:04 pm to
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:04 pm to
Antifa is surging to that area and one of their crazies will definitely go rogue. Then the window of discretion before bringing lethal force into the engagement dynamic will close. Agents could not know whether they are being confronted by a Karen or a trained insurgent.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:04 pm to
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Did you watch the video from the OP? It really looks like that isn't the case.
You're right that this does seem to make it not look like the 2nd video does not show him being hit. It's hard to tell though.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:04 pm to
let me help you understand something jethro this is how we should have been treating these idiots from the get go, going back to the summer of floyd.

i'm sick of this schit, this is not peaceful protesting, this is not a first amendment issue. after the kent state riot gallup conducted a poll 72% of americans approved of the way the national guard handled the riots.
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
2088 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:05 pm to
She clearly drove right at him you fricking moron. All of the videos show that same thing.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:06 pm to
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She clearly drove right at him you fricking moron. All of the videos show that same thing.

Did you watch the video from the OP? It's a good breakdown that shows this was not the case.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:08 pm to
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I do wonder what, if anything he will be charged with. Murder won't hold up for a conviction, I agree on that.


It's a really interesting question. The reasonable fear for his own life will exonerate him from any murder conviction. Of course, he won't be charged by the Feds.

But, now that his identity is known, Minnesota MIGHT try to charge him. The threshold issue is whether he has qualified immunity. The fact that he deviated from DHS policy MIGHT give him some problems. (See Chauvin, who, ironically WAS following policy.)

Also, Minnesota has lots of different homicide charges....
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
2088 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:10 pm to
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Did you watch the video from the OP? It's a good breakdown that shows this was not the case.


Watch it again with the sound off and the NYT not telling you what to think. Then put yourself in his shoes. fricking loser.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:10 pm to
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She clearly drove right at him you fricking moron. All of the videos show that same thing.


All of the videos, including this one, show her turning to the right...away from the shooter...as soon as she clears the vehicle to her right.
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
3592 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:11 pm to
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Officer should not have shot,


Lady shouldn’t have been interfering and resisting.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Watch it again with the sound off and the NYT not telling you what to think
I can clearly see him out of the way and her wheel turned away from him as he's shooting his first shot.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Lady shouldn’t have been interfering and resisting.

Lady shouldn't have been wearing that skirt
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2377 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:12 pm to
The video doesn't add anything we don't already know. He was hit by the car but not runover. She was trying to flee, but she still hit him with her car to do it.

Notice he doesn't pull his gun until her tires spin on the road towards him. That means he perceived a lethal threat at that moment. So he had no intention of using his gun until she drove towards him. If he had already had his gun pulled, aiming at her, there might be an argument that he was just looking to shoot her, but that isn't what happened.


Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1732 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:12 pm to
Here is where you’re wrong. The act of accelerating toward the officer was attempted murder of a police officer. His leaping out of the way does not neutralize the threat.

Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:13 pm to
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He was hit by the car
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13638 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:13 pm to
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Officer should not have shot, but these leftist idiots are antagonizing them nonstop. Put yourself in his shoes and you might have shot too.


Officer was totally justified in shooting.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:14 pm to
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The agent was hit by the vehicle. This same agent evidently was actually struck and injured in an earlier incident last year or whatever.

WTF are you talking about?


Is "hit" the same as "run over?" And, again not that facts matter to you, but he wasn't struck by a vehicle before, his arm was pinned inside it and he was dragged 100 yards.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 5:15 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19906 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:15 pm to
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She clearly drove right at him you fricking moron. All of the videos show that same thing.


Bingo

...and it's not going to matter. She was already detained and attempting to attack a law enforcement agent while fleeing.

Once again, I'll repeat it, the biggest loss in all of this are the two vehicles she plowed into and totaled while breaking the law. I hope the owners of those vehicles sue her family's arse off.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32836 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:17 pm to
It would be useful to know even more. What the frick was ICE even doing? What the frick was her problem? Why were they grabbing her door? Legally he might get off for obvious reasons, but I think he fricked up and knows it. He was out of the way and shooting her did not affect her path.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1139 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:17 pm to
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I can clearly see him out of the way and her wheel turned away from him as he's shooting his first shot.


After he started to jump out of the way and the car had already started moving towards where he was. It still hit him.

Right before the car started moving, this is what it looked like:


Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19906 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 5:17 pm to
ICE was in the area arresting a pedophile.
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