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re: Seth Rogan and Sarah Silverman's new animated Christmas film gets rave reviews

Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:15 pm to
Well, the Biblical Exodus was pretty important in the Old Testament which, last I checked, is half of the Bible. The book of Macabees is also part of the Christian Bible. Like I said, those holidays could be celebrated, but aren’t. Every part of the Jewish tradition prior to 35AD is a part of Christianity, even if they weren’t all maintained into the present day. Obviously, Jewish traditions started post 35AD would not be celebrated.

There is no Christianity without the Biblical Exodus. Heck, the Last Supper was a Passover Seder for goodness sake!

Chanukah was mostly hyped in the 20th century America to compete with the commercialization of Christmas because so many Jewish kids grew up envious of their Christian friends celebrating Christmas. As a result, a relatively minor holiday was elevated, but everyone knows it’s a joke. The same thing happened with Purim competing with Halloween.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:20 pm to
Maccabbees are considered apocyrphal. Literally considered uninspired and wedged between the actual books of the Bible. "The Old Testament is half the Bible, therefore Hanukkah!" is like saying Daniel and Ezekiel were written in Babylon, therefore the entire Babylonian history is relevant to Christians and we should celebrate their holidays.
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Chanukah was mostly hyped in the 20th century America to compete with the commercialization of Christmas because so many Jewish kids grew up envious of their Christian friends celebrating Christmas.

Are you saying Hanukkah is Jewish Kwanzaa? Because I can roll with that.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted by tommy2tone1999
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Posted by Intelligent
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:22 pm to
Every religion is based on the belief that the followers of said religion are special, better than everyone else, and rules don't apply to them. All Religions are based in this.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:25 pm to
No shite. There’s some big differences, especially with regards to an After Life. See, Judaism has no after life, hence the need for an earthly government enforcing religious law. The resurrection changed that understanding in the new Christian community to expect a heavenly kingdom where religious law is enforced by God, not man (Judge not pest ye be judged), and that there is an after life to punish wrong-doers/reward the rightious rather than their rewards/punishments coming on earth. Christianity also introduced the concept of forgiveness of sins, which did not exist in the Jewish tradition (the only attonement for sin was death, sin makes men mortal). It’s a significant philosophical departure.

That doesn’t mean that the Christian faith is whoally divorced from the founding and history of the Jewish people. Christianity was not a whole-cloth replacement, but an evolution of Judaism.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Are you saying Hanukkah is Jewish Kwanzaa? Because I can roll with that.


Not exactly, in that it’s a real holiday that existed for millennia, but it is similar in that it was hyped by the media and commercialized as a competitor to Christmas.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Not exactly, in that it’s a real holiday that existed for millennia,

Po-TA-toe, Po-TAH-toe.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Muslims actually control a pretty significant chunk of the Israeli parliament.


There are currently 14 Arab members of the 120 body, and some of those are Druze and Christian. That's stretching the definition of "significant chunk".
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:32 pm to
At least Silverman agrees we need a national divorce. I’m sure her idea of what her side and our side keeps is unrealistic and considerably different than our view.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Every religion is based on the belief that the followers of said religion are special, better than everyone else
Very much this.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70544 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Maccabbees are considered apocyrphal.


That’s not a uniform designation in all Christian faiths. The Catholic and Orthodox faiths still include it, while the King James Bible, mostly used by Protestant faiths, does not. There are many books that are used by some Christian denominations but not others. Considering that Catholicism is the biggest single denomination (even if they’re not a majority of Christians in America), I’d say Maccabees is pretty relevant, far more so than Persian traditions are. Granted, the Persian king Cyrus the Great is called a messiah in the Old Testament for freeing the Israelites from their captivity in Babylon.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:34 pm to
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That’s not a uniform designation in all Christian faiths. The Catholic and Orthodox faiths still include it

I can't speak for the Orthodox, but originally Catholics considered it apocryphal and recognized it as probably uninspired although that may have changed.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70544 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:37 pm to
Modern Judaism is also an evolution from biblical Judaism.

I disagree with your assessment of modern Judaism being the church of Satan. Almost all of the Jewish folks you hate in government, media, or academia are non-religious Jews. The Communist gas-lighters you hate are by-and-large atheists, just like the young progressives who grew up in Christian households.

In fact, Orthodox Jews are the most likely to vote Republican and are a significant conservative demographic in Long Island.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:38 pm to
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The comments are brutal using elves in place of jews

This touched a nerve with some people
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