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re: Seth Rogan and Sarah Silverman's new animated Christmas film gets rave reviews
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:15 pm to squid_hunt
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:15 pm to squid_hunt
Well, the Biblical Exodus was pretty important in the Old Testament which, last I checked, is half of the Bible. The book of Macabees is also part of the Christian Bible. Like I said, those holidays could be celebrated, but aren’t. Every part of the Jewish tradition prior to 35AD is a part of Christianity, even if they weren’t all maintained into the present day. Obviously, Jewish traditions started post 35AD would not be celebrated.
There is no Christianity without the Biblical Exodus. Heck, the Last Supper was a Passover Seder for goodness sake!
Chanukah was mostly hyped in the 20th century America to compete with the commercialization of Christmas because so many Jewish kids grew up envious of their Christian friends celebrating Christmas. As a result, a relatively minor holiday was elevated, but everyone knows it’s a joke. The same thing happened with Purim competing with Halloween.
There is no Christianity without the Biblical Exodus. Heck, the Last Supper was a Passover Seder for goodness sake!
Chanukah was mostly hyped in the 20th century America to compete with the commercialization of Christmas because so many Jewish kids grew up envious of their Christian friends celebrating Christmas. As a result, a relatively minor holiday was elevated, but everyone knows it’s a joke. The same thing happened with Purim competing with Halloween.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:20 pm to kingbob
Maccabbees are considered apocyrphal. Literally considered uninspired and wedged between the actual books of the Bible. "The Old Testament is half the Bible, therefore Hanukkah!" is like saying Daniel and Ezekiel were written in Babylon, therefore the entire Babylonian history is relevant to Christians and we should celebrate their holidays.
Are you saying Hanukkah is Jewish Kwanzaa? Because I can roll with that.
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Chanukah was mostly hyped in the 20th century America to compete with the commercialization of Christmas because so many Jewish kids grew up envious of their Christian friends celebrating Christmas.
Are you saying Hanukkah is Jewish Kwanzaa? Because I can roll with that.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:20 pm to MIZZOU_JP
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:22 pm to Ed Orwellgeron
Every religion is based on the belief that the followers of said religion are special, better than everyone else, and rules don't apply to them. All Religions are based in this.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:25 pm to Ed Orwellgeron
No shite. There’s some big differences, especially with regards to an After Life. See, Judaism has no after life, hence the need for an earthly government enforcing religious law. The resurrection changed that understanding in the new Christian community to expect a heavenly kingdom where religious law is enforced by God, not man (Judge not pest ye be judged), and that there is an after life to punish wrong-doers/reward the rightious rather than their rewards/punishments coming on earth. Christianity also introduced the concept of forgiveness of sins, which did not exist in the Jewish tradition (the only attonement for sin was death, sin makes men mortal). It’s a significant philosophical departure.
That doesn’t mean that the Christian faith is whoally divorced from the founding and history of the Jewish people. Christianity was not a whole-cloth replacement, but an evolution of Judaism.
That doesn’t mean that the Christian faith is whoally divorced from the founding and history of the Jewish people. Christianity was not a whole-cloth replacement, but an evolution of Judaism.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:27 pm to squid_hunt
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Are you saying Hanukkah is Jewish Kwanzaa? Because I can roll with that.
Not exactly, in that it’s a real holiday that existed for millennia, but it is similar in that it was hyped by the media and commercialized as a competitor to Christmas.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:29 pm to kingbob
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Not exactly, in that it’s a real holiday that existed for millennia,
Po-TA-toe, Po-TAH-toe.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:32 pm to kingbob
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Muslims actually control a pretty significant chunk of the Israeli parliament.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:32 pm to MIZZOU_JP
At least Silverman agrees we need a national divorce. I’m sure her idea of what her side and our side keeps is unrealistic and considerably different than our view.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:32 pm to Intelligent
quote:Very much this.
Every religion is based on the belief that the followers of said religion are special, better than everyone else
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:32 pm to squid_hunt
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Maccabbees are considered apocyrphal.
That’s not a uniform designation in all Christian faiths. The Catholic and Orthodox faiths still include it, while the King James Bible, mostly used by Protestant faiths, does not. There are many books that are used by some Christian denominations but not others. Considering that Catholicism is the biggest single denomination (even if they’re not a majority of Christians in America), I’d say Maccabees is pretty relevant, far more so than Persian traditions are. Granted, the Persian king Cyrus the Great is called a messiah in the Old Testament for freeing the Israelites from their captivity in Babylon.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:34 pm to kingbob
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That’s not a uniform designation in all Christian faiths. The Catholic and Orthodox faiths still include it
I can't speak for the Orthodox, but originally Catholics considered it apocryphal and recognized it as probably uninspired although that may have changed.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:37 pm to Ed Orwellgeron
Modern Judaism is also an evolution from biblical Judaism.
I disagree with your assessment of modern Judaism being the church of Satan. Almost all of the Jewish folks you hate in government, media, or academia are non-religious Jews. The Communist gas-lighters you hate are by-and-large atheists, just like the young progressives who grew up in Christian households.
In fact, Orthodox Jews are the most likely to vote Republican and are a significant conservative demographic in Long Island.
I disagree with your assessment of modern Judaism being the church of Satan. Almost all of the Jewish folks you hate in government, media, or academia are non-religious Jews. The Communist gas-lighters you hate are by-and-large atheists, just like the young progressives who grew up in Christian households.
In fact, Orthodox Jews are the most likely to vote Republican and are a significant conservative demographic in Long Island.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:38 pm to tommy2tone1999
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The comments are brutal using elves in place of jews
This touched a nerve with some people
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