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Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:14 pm to Rogers Hog
quote:No. He wouldn't. You don't get to tell him what his religious views are or which ones he considers deal breakers. Sorry.
This gentleman wants to claim a religious exemption because it goes against his beliefs but to maintain this he would have to decline to make cakes for sinful actions such as remarrying after divorce or those that lived together before marriage.
quote:See above
Then there are the ones specifically forbidden in the 10 commandments such as idolatry for for making a cake for an agnostic ceremony or those that don’t honor the sabbath and then we go down the rabbit hole of things forbidden by the Bible.
quote:See above
I’ll make this final point Jesus recognized that Caesar’s laws were to be followed as well as Gods therefore as long as the government requires non discriminatory practices from the businesses they liscense his only real choice is to not do business at all. For those that come back with his rights being violated he is not required to begin living the gay lifestyle just make a cake.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:17 pm to ShortyRob
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Is "homosexuality" common in the animal kingdom or are homosexual acts common?
Common is a pretty vague term.
It's a known deviation from the norm in many species
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:19 pm to Rogers Hog
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This gentleman wants to claim a religious exemption because it goes against his beliefs but to maintain this he would have to decline to make cakes for sinful actions such as remarrying after divorce or those that lived together before marriage.
Luckily, the law disagrees with you. Government does not determine "right" and "wrong" religious practices.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:20 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
ommon is a pretty vague term.
It's a known deviation from the norm in many species
Well. ok. Common bad term
My point being, I've seen where they've shown me, "hey, this boy animal fricked this boy animal".
But have they discovered "This boy animal ONLY fricks boy animals"?
Or, if boy animal only gets fricked by boys, have they established that it isn't just dominance by other boys who also nail girls(ala sorta like Prison)?
I realize that we like to say "either you suck dick or you do not suck dick"...........but, I think you see what I'm asking.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:20 pm to ShortyRob
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A question
Is "homosexuality" common in the animal kingdom or are homosexual acts common?
I ask because I genuinely don't know if they have data on this. IE.........have they documented animals that overtly refuse opposite sex?
Homosexual acts or same-sex behavior is more common than absolute refusal of the opposite sex, but both have been scientifically documented.
Unscientifically, my cousins had what they suspect to be a purely homosexual dog that they rescued as a puppy. He would go nuts over male dogs and hump the shite out of them but wanted absolutely nothing to do with female dogs. And he was this way from around a year old until the day he died.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:21 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Sometimes, the left really terrifies you with their thinking.
Luckily, the law disagrees with you. Government does not determine "right" and "wrong" religious practices.
I mean, that wasn't even unusual. There are actually lefties out there that think that the govt/courts should be in the business of arbitrating whether or not you are sufficiently adhering to your religious beliefs as THE GOVT thinks you should!
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:22 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
but, I think you see what I'm asking.
I do and I don't know the answer. Not exactly what I spend my free reading time on.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:24 pm to nematocyte
quote:But absent being able to interview the dog, that could just as well be a dog that used to be in a pack of dogs that kicked the shite out of him every time he tried to get laid.
Unscientifically, my cousins had what they suspect to be a purely homosexual dog that they rescued as a puppy. He would go nuts over male dogs and hump the shite out of them but wanted absolutely nothing to do with female dogs. And he was this way from around a year old until the day he died.
I mean. If I sick stronger monkeys on a weak male monkey every time he tries to get some pussy......eventually....that monkey ain't going to try and get pussy anymore.
I"m not saying that's the case. I'm merely saying that it isn't like we really KNOW what's going on there.
Hell. That dog may have only ever been around one female dog that beat the shite out of him when he tried to get some.
Animals ain't people.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:24 pm to Antonio Moss
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I do and I don't know the answer. Not exactly what I spend my free reading time on.
Touche'
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:25 pm to ShortyRob
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There are actually lefties out there that think that the govt/courts should be in the business of arbitrating whether or not you are sufficiently adhering to your religious beliefs as THE GOVT thinks you should!
Because theocracies are awesome.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:26 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
This gentleman wants to claim a religious exemption because it goes against his beliefs but to maintain this he would have to decline to make cakes for sinful actions such as remarrying after divorce or those that lived together before marriage.
I think you're underestimating Christian hypocrisy. All sins might be inexplicably equal in the eyes of God but they sure as shite aren't equal in the eyes of his sheeple.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:27 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:We need the government to determine acceptable religious practices and beliefs so that we can preserve religious freedom!!!
Because theocracies are awesome.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:29 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
But absent being able to interview the dog, that could just as well be a dog that used to be in a pack of dogs that kicked the shite out of him every time he tried to get laid.
I think you missed the part where he was rescued as a puppy. As for the year old portion, that's roughly around the time he started humping shite.
But I get your meaning, we can anthropomorphize as much as we'd like but we can't know the mind of a dog. Not yet, anyway.
And I agree, animals aren't people but people certainly are animals, literally and metaphorically.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:29 pm to L.A.
The thing is, you could hold Seth's hand and explain the difference between an owner refusing to sell a cake from behind the display glass and the State being able to compel somebody to create a cake that specifically violates his conscience or political beliefs. But what would be the point of explaining things to a guy who gets frustrated if it's not a slogan that can get him the retweets he uses as a substitute for critical thinking.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:31 pm to nematocyte
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But I get your meaning, we can anthropomorphize as much as we'd like but we can't know the mind of a dog. Not yet, anyway.
And I agree, animals aren't people but people certainly are animals, literally and metaphorically
Of course.
And, I'm not saying there's no merit to looking at it.
I'm just not sure that when you hear layman say, "they've found homosexuality in the animal kingdom" that it's actually an accurate statement.
They've found homosexual acts.
Certainly interesting. Just not the same thing.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:32 pm to Lsupimp
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The thing is, you could hold Seth's hand and explain the difference between an owner refusing to sell a cake from behind the display glass and the State being able to compel somebody to create a cake that specifically violates his conscience or political beliefs
You don't need to explain it to him.
He, like the rest of these morons knows it. He still thinks he should be able to FORCE you to support his views with your labor.
It's really that simple.
Of course, he does NOT believe the reverse should be true.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:34 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
Legalized discrimination. He is right. And Orville stinks
Like affirmative action?
Standards of acceptance for aspiring Asian college students?
O, and...
quote:
Seth MacFarlane On SCOTUS Cake Ruling: Just Like Not Seating Black People
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:35 pm to nematocyte
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I think you're underestimating Christian hypocrisy. All sins might be inexplicably equal in the eyes of God but they sure as shite aren't equal in the eyes of his sheeple.
Not quite a constitutional argument...but you got a shot in on Christians. So edgy.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:36 pm to L.A.
Business owners should be allowed to refuse service to anyone for any reason. I genuinely don't understand why that idea is so repulsive to so many people.
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