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re: Serious question. What’s the difference between a MAGA supporter and a MAGA extremist?

Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:25 am to
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27765 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:25 am to
To democrats there is no difference. Anyone who challenges their oligarchy is a threat and therefore must be eliminated at all costs.

Once you understand that, you understand Democrats completely.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5439 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:27 am to
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Trumps old line of (paraphrasing) “I could murder someone on 5th avenue and get away with it”.

MAGA supporter. “Yeah that’s too far. He shouldn’t have done that. “

MAGA extremist. “ it was staged. Show me the body. The images of the body are a crisis actor anyway. Long way to catch up with the Clintons. I saw footage of the “victim” in a coffee shop in Soho a week after his “murder”.



Yeah because they've never staged anything to disfavor Donald Trump. Never. No staging here.

Not the Steele Dossier

Not the Hunter Biden laptop "im in the cia and its not real" letter

Not the General Flynn prosecution

Not the Russian Alfa Bank fake transfers to Trump's accounts

Not the $18m valuation of his $100+m house

We could go on all day but y'all are class-A gaslighters. Staging-R-Us. Good talk s***heel.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 7:28 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44214 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:27 am to
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No emotions there.


That’s not true.

Actors can be married to their roles.

Fed on Fed “crime” is not excluded from that “emotion.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:27 am to
quote:

emotionally

Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27241 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:28 am to
I just can’t muster much in regards to caring about January 6.

The folks who went there already believed that the government had stolen a Presidential election. What the hell did they think the government would be capable of on that day?

Sometimes you just have to listen to the immortal words of that great Patriot, Charlie Daniels

“Watch where you’re going, remember where you’ve been, that’s the way I see it, I’m a simple man.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:28 am to
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That’s not true.

Actors can be married to their roles.

Fed on Fed “crime” is not excluded from that “emotion.”


quote:

One, how far down the conspiratorial rabbit hole the person finds him/herself.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44214 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:29 am to
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MAGA is justifying their actions by using BLM as an example.


False


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I'm saying emotional thinking and violence are wrong in both.


Tell that to the agent provocateurs.

On another note, how hard do you wish to defend Epps?
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:29 am to
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No emotions there. Totally calm Patriots


But SloProBlo, you've skipped over the part where flashbangs & other projectiles were launched into what was an otherwise peaceful crowd. Those actions by LE is what incited that crowd & was directly responsible for the death of a man due to cardiac arrest after being struck in the chest.
I suggest you expand your J6 knowledge, then promptly GFY.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44214 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:30 am to
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One, how far down the conspiratorial rabbit hole the person finds him/herself.


So no agents were present?

Interesting take.

About Epps…
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:30 am to
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False

They're literally using BLM as their excuse

quote:

On another note, how hard do you wish to defend Epps?

I don't care. Ray Epps and his motivation/sponsors mean nothing to this discussion.

This is about the emotional NPCs who were stupid enough to follow him or anyone else. The sincerity of the messenger is literally irrelevant to the actions of the NPCs.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10661 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:31 am to
How about addressing the merits of the original post? Is it appropriate or proper for the president of the United States to claim that the 74 million* people who voted for his opponent are essentially domestic terrorists? I know you won’t answer though because you’re a troll.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56804 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:31 am to
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Nice whataboutism. Who said Leftists weren't emotional? Patriots have lowered themselves to be irrational-emotional people like Leftists ...and you seem to be celebrating it?


This is the flawed thinking. The people you refer to as patriots are people that go to work, come home and prefer to be left alone. Patriots are not emotional people they are people with resolve. They are the kind of people that win wars that left wing professors write books about. They will eventually stand up when they have had enough.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:32 am to
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So no agents were present?

I didn't say that.

One way (bad) conspiracy theorists argue is to rely on a small kernel of truth and then try to expand upon it and hope nobody notices.

There were feds in the crowd: true.

There was nowhere near enough to create "Fed on Fed “crime”, as you put it. That's the logical expansion you were trying to slip through.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
3491 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:33 am to
MAGA supporter obviously supports Trump.
MAGA extremist is much like a white supremacist in that neither one really exists.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:33 am to
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How about addressing the merits of the original post?

Literally did with the FIRST response to OP.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:34 am to
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The people you refer to as patriots are people that go to work, come home and prefer to be left alone

Wrong on many of these, but especially the "prefer to be left alone" part. MAGA is for big, intrusive government and economic redistributive welfare programs.

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They will eventually stand up when they have had enough.


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Second, how emotional the person is, increasing the chance of violence


Proving my point, one LARP at a time
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13429 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:37 am to
The supporter will vote for whoever has the best chance to beat the Democrat.

The extremist doesn't care about beating Democrats, only aggrandizing Trump.

The supporter wants Trump in office over Biden because the policy agenda put forth will beat the pants off of another Biden term. But the supported also realizes that Trump is weak on conservative policy compared to other Republicans and would rather have someone stronger if possible.

The extremist couldn't care less about policy and instead makes excuses for Trump's policy flaws to continue blind support.

The supporter has a reasonable take on conspiracy therories.

The extremist does not.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:38 am to
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MAGA is justifying their actions by using BLM as an example.


WRONG. Not to justify, to magnify hypocrisy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:38 am to
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The supporter will vote for whoever has the best chance to beat the Democrat.

The extremist doesn't care about beating Democrats, only aggrandizing Trump.

That is actually a good distinction, but I don't think all Trump acolytes are necessarily extremists. Stronger adherence to the cult-like association does increase the chances of extremism, though.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 7:39 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:39 am to
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This is the flawed thinking. The people you refer to as patriots are people that go to work, come home and prefer to be left alone. Patriots are not emotional people they are people with resolve. They are the kind of people that win wars that left wing professors write books about. They will eventually stand up when they have had enough.


You're talking about Patriots, when I think you really mean "Patriots."

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