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Senate breaks filibuster 67-32, advances spying bill. Both sides want to remove amendments

Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:31 pm
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The Senate advanced a controversial surveillance bill on Thursday afternoon by a 67-32 vote, as leaders race to fight off attempts to change it that could result in a lapse over the weekend.

The vote to break a filibuster on a law extending and reforming the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act’s section 702 authority sets up a crucial showdown before the Saturday expiration of the program. Critics of the authority, which allows warrantless surveillance of foreign targets, want major changes designed at making it much tougher to access American information that is swept up in the program. They also want to strike House language updating which data providers’ information could be used in the program.


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Due to Senate procedure, the spy powers law will expire on Saturday without agreement from all 100 senators to vote more quickly. That in mind, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell must craft a deal that sets parameters on amendment votes and debate time in order to pass the legislation before the deadline.

And changing the two-year extension at this late stage would require the House to vote again on it before Saturday, an arduous exercise that could result in a lapse due to the tight timetable. If the Senate changes the bill, “we run the real risk of FISA expiring,” said Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, the top Republican on the Intelligence Committee.

The fight over surveillance is creating unusual bipartisan coalitions and is likely to lead to a series of challenging Senate votes. Libertarian-leaning lawmakers in both parties want significant alterations — mainly centered on the data provider issue and more warrant requirements when the intelligence community accesses American information — while backers of the intelligence community are warning their colleagues not to play around with the bill with such little time to spare.

Senators in both parties are making a last-minute push to strip out an amendment from the House that would make changes to the law over which data providers must comply with the FISA program. In an interview, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said there’s been no debate about the provision within the Intelligence Committee.

“It was snuck in at the last moment and it’s a massive increase in the number of people that could be forced by the government to be spied on," Wyden said.

Wyden and Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) said they would insist on a vote to cut that language before moving forward. Both expressed concern that the amendment text is too opaque; Hawley said “it needs to be stripped out.”


https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/04/18/congress/senate-advances-fisa-bill-00153107
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
79025 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:32 pm to
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If the Senate changes the bill, “we run the real risk of FISA expiring,” said Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida,


Warhawk gonna warhawk
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26179 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:33 pm to
These manufactured deadline "emergencies" from Congress are getting really, really, old. "Oh, well the deadline is tomorrow so you just have to pass this enormous and complex legislation that was crafted by special interests and hidden in the leadership's office for the past two months without any changes or debate on the substance. Just pass it! Hurry!"

No one made them wait until the last minute for this. It is the same with the manufactured government funding crises where they go on their usual six week breaks and come back 6 working days before a deadline.

Congress is the enemy.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:35 pm to
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Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)


frick that lispy fraud.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26179 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:36 pm to
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frick that lispy fraud.

He's on your side on this particular point.

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Senators in both parties are making a last-minute push to strip out an amendment from the House that would make changes to the law over which data providers must comply with the FISA program. In an interview, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said there’s been no debate about the provision within the Intelligence Committee.

“It was snuck in at the last moment and it’s a massive increase in the number of people that could be forced by the government to be spied on," Wyden said.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6926 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:38 pm to
I dislike much of Wyden's politics, but he has consistently told government to stay out of peoples' business. Ironic for someone from Portlandia
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67774 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:39 pm to


Many of us figured that we were already being spied on.

Now they are telling us publicly.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11844 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:41 pm to
Can't believe Trump didn't advocate making spying of Americans harder.


Praying Trump does some spying when he gets re-elected.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1933 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:49 pm to
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These manufactured deadline "emergencies" from Congress are getting really, really, old. "Oh, well the deadline is tomorrow so you just have to pass this enormous and complex legislation that was crafted by special interests and hidden in the leadership's office for the past two months without any changes or debate on the substance. Just pass it! Hurry!"

No one made them wait until the last minute for this. It is the same with the manufactured government funding crises where they go on their usual six week breaks and come back 6 working days before a deadline.

Congress is the enemy.


Exactly this. This is how leadership takes legislative powers away from the rest of the elected body. They intentionally delay just about every vote until the last minute and the run to the media screaming CRISIS and using the media to gin up public panic.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98670 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:52 pm to
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“we run the real risk of FISA expiring


Boo
fricking
Hoo
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59747 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:00 pm to
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He's on your side on this particular point.


IDGAF. His record speaks for itself.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90554 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:12 pm to
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They intentionally delay just about every vote until the last minute and the run to the media screaming CRISIS and using the media to gin up public panic.


The public needs to learn to say oh well let it expire then and do your job to write a new bill
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146657 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:05 am to




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Dear HHTM,

Would you still blow Rubio?



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This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 7:14 am
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11028 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:10 am to
Voting to shred the Constitution - they can't wait.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146657 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:22 am to
Torie Nuland resigned? Why is our State Dept taking over Pakistan? Why did USA govt create ISIS?


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This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 7:36 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146657 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:03 am to
both sides want to lock up listless vessel deplorables.
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