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Senate breaks filibuster 67-32, advances spying bill. Both sides want to remove amendments
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:31 pm
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The Senate advanced a controversial surveillance bill on Thursday afternoon by a 67-32 vote, as leaders race to fight off attempts to change it that could result in a lapse over the weekend.
The vote to break a filibuster on a law extending and reforming the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act’s section 702 authority sets up a crucial showdown before the Saturday expiration of the program. Critics of the authority, which allows warrantless surveillance of foreign targets, want major changes designed at making it much tougher to access American information that is swept up in the program. They also want to strike House language updating which data providers’ information could be used in the program.
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Due to Senate procedure, the spy powers law will expire on Saturday without agreement from all 100 senators to vote more quickly. That in mind, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell must craft a deal that sets parameters on amendment votes and debate time in order to pass the legislation before the deadline.
And changing the two-year extension at this late stage would require the House to vote again on it before Saturday, an arduous exercise that could result in a lapse due to the tight timetable. If the Senate changes the bill, “we run the real risk of FISA expiring,” said Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, the top Republican on the Intelligence Committee.
The fight over surveillance is creating unusual bipartisan coalitions and is likely to lead to a series of challenging Senate votes. Libertarian-leaning lawmakers in both parties want significant alterations — mainly centered on the data provider issue and more warrant requirements when the intelligence community accesses American information — while backers of the intelligence community are warning their colleagues not to play around with the bill with such little time to spare.
Senators in both parties are making a last-minute push to strip out an amendment from the House that would make changes to the law over which data providers must comply with the FISA program. In an interview, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said there’s been no debate about the provision within the Intelligence Committee.
“It was snuck in at the last moment and it’s a massive increase in the number of people that could be forced by the government to be spied on," Wyden said.
Wyden and Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) said they would insist on a vote to cut that language before moving forward. Both expressed concern that the amendment text is too opaque; Hawley said “it needs to be stripped out.”
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/04/18/congress/senate-advances-fisa-bill-00153107
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:32 pm to loogaroo
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If the Senate changes the bill, “we run the real risk of FISA expiring,” said Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida,
Warhawk gonna warhawk
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:33 pm to loogaroo
These manufactured deadline "emergencies" from Congress are getting really, really, old. "Oh, well the deadline is tomorrow so you just have to pass this enormous and complex legislation that was crafted by special interests and hidden in the leadership's office for the past two months without any changes or debate on the substance. Just pass it! Hurry!"
No one made them wait until the last minute for this. It is the same with the manufactured government funding crises where they go on their usual six week breaks and come back 6 working days before a deadline.
Congress is the enemy.
No one made them wait until the last minute for this. It is the same with the manufactured government funding crises where they go on their usual six week breaks and come back 6 working days before a deadline.
Congress is the enemy.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:35 pm to loogaroo
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Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)
frick that lispy fraud.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:36 pm to VoxDawg
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frick that lispy fraud.
He's on your side on this particular point.
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Senators in both parties are making a last-minute push to strip out an amendment from the House that would make changes to the law over which data providers must comply with the FISA program. In an interview, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said there’s been no debate about the provision within the Intelligence Committee.
“It was snuck in at the last moment and it’s a massive increase in the number of people that could be forced by the government to be spied on," Wyden said.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:38 pm to loogaroo
I dislike much of Wyden's politics, but he has consistently told government to stay out of peoples' business. Ironic for someone from Portlandia
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:39 pm to loogaroo
Many of us figured that we were already being spied on.
Now they are telling us publicly.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:41 pm to loogaroo
Can't believe Trump didn't advocate making spying of Americans harder.
Praying Trump does some spying when he gets re-elected.
Praying Trump does some spying when he gets re-elected.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:49 pm to Indefatigable
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These manufactured deadline "emergencies" from Congress are getting really, really, old. "Oh, well the deadline is tomorrow so you just have to pass this enormous and complex legislation that was crafted by special interests and hidden in the leadership's office for the past two months without any changes or debate on the substance. Just pass it! Hurry!"
No one made them wait until the last minute for this. It is the same with the manufactured government funding crises where they go on their usual six week breaks and come back 6 working days before a deadline.
Congress is the enemy.
Exactly this. This is how leadership takes legislative powers away from the rest of the elected body. They intentionally delay just about every vote until the last minute and the run to the media screaming CRISIS and using the media to gin up public panic.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:52 pm to loogaroo
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“we run the real risk of FISA expiring
Boo
fricking
Hoo
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:00 pm to Indefatigable
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He's on your side on this particular point.
IDGAF. His record speaks for itself.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:12 pm to fwtex
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They intentionally delay just about every vote until the last minute and the run to the media screaming CRISIS and using the media to gin up public panic.
The public needs to learn to say oh well let it expire then and do your job to write a new bill
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:05 am to idlewatcher
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:10 am to loogaroo
Voting to shred the Constitution - they can't wait.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:03 am to POTUS2024
both sides want to lock up listless vessel deplorables.
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