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re: SDNY fricking with DOGE ALSO

Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:41 am to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16420 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:41 am to
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Well that’s exactly the problem.

No, you and your ilk are the problem. You've politicized every institution in the country. That's over now. Enjoy the show
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7173 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:43 am to
We knew all along that they’d fight everything through lawfare. Even a lot of Republican appointed judges lean left. They are lawyers with robes on.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154590 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:43 am to
That last name. Hmmmm.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8195 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:43 am to
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You dolt. It’s three equal branches of govt. trump doesn’t get to just steamroll past the constitution


Just watch. This a-hole is just a bug on the windshield
Posted by BlueTiger23
Member since Dec 2020
450 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:44 am to
That’s literally not true. You looking at the Courts as being intrusive when their power is to examine if actions are abiding by the Law of the Land. If that power wasn’t there, we’d have a President that can do any and everything he wants. If DOGE can halt payments signed by Congress and people with no security clearance can access our systems (regardless of the extent of access), you are crazy if you don’t think there should be some review. I can guarantee these sentiments are not what they were when the Courts block Democratic EOs. The founding fathers did it like this for a reason
Posted by BlueTiger23
Member since Dec 2020
450 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:45 am to
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No, you and your ilk are the problem. You've politicized every institution in the country. That's over now. Enjoy the show


I’ve politicized everything by saying Presidents shouldn’t break laws???? Controversial take
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21333 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:50 am to
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Then what’s the point of the Constitution or checks and balances? Some of you sound very un-American


Sounds like a really Marxist and anti American perspective.
Do you think this progressive judge cares about the Constitution??

Why not criticize his attempting to prevent consultants(directed by the sitting president) to extract data searching for fraud, waste, and corruption???
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:50 am to
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They all keep breaking rules.


What rules?

Even the judge cannot elucidate any rules or laws for that matter in his ruling. His ruling is could have been a dectur Tigerdroppings Poltical Talk post.
Posted by BlueTiger23
Member since Dec 2020
450 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:53 am to
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Sounds like a really Marxist and anti American perspective. Do you think this progressive judge cares about the Constitution?? Why not criticize his attempting to prevent consultants(directed by the sitting president) to extract data searching for fraud, waste, and corruption???


We can go back and forth about which political leaning judge xyz. The reality is that a foreigner (who get billions in fed money himself btw) and people without security clearance have this access. Yall don’t even know what Marxism is and use it when someone disagrees with you on actual American concepts. It’s literally in the Constitution for the courts to have this power. How’s something created by the creators of America…Marxist? LOL
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16420 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:54 am to
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their power is to examine if actions are abiding by the Law of the Land
Did you even read what the judge said? Trump can't access Treasury info because he might use it for political purposes. What law is the president breaking by accessing executive branch information?
Posted by BlueTiger23
Member since Dec 2020
450 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:57 am to
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What rules? Even the judge cannot elucidate any rules or laws for that matter in his ruling. His ruling is could have been a dectur Tigerdroppings Poltical Talk post.


Did you even read the ruling/brief? The laws/rules are explicitly listed. The claim is violation of the Administrative Powers Act, Take Care Clause of the Constitution, and other doctrines. You can legit google the filing man.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87053 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:59 am to
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This thing that POTUS is so different is mind boggling. He broke/breaks rules like every other one.


Name one
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20397 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:59 am to
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The reality is that a foreigner

He’s an American citizen.
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people without security clearance have this access.

They were all granted clearances last week.
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It’s literally in the Constitution for the courts to have this power.

DOGE serves at the behest of the President within the executive branch. The judicial doesn’t get to limit the actions of the chief executive as it relates to the function of an executive staffer as long as they don’t violate the constitution or any federal laws.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56847 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:00 am to
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You dolt. It’s three equal branches of govt. trump doesn’t get to just steamroll past the constitution


Which action of Trumps, specifically,“steamrolls past the constitution?”
Posted by BlueTiger23
Member since Dec 2020
450 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:01 am to
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Did you even read what the judge said? Trump can't access Treasury info because he might use it for political purposes. What law is the president breaking by accessing executive branch information?


It’s not the President accessing these things. It’s people without security clearances, that’s the issue lol you’re acting as though these are people that went through the full process of vetting set by our government and accepted by every president prior to this term (even first term Trump). On top of that, what authority do they have to freeze payments administered by Congress? Acting as though there isn’t some deep grey area is nuts
Posted by BlueTiger23
Member since Dec 2020
450 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:03 am to
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Name one


Well clearly the Administrative Procedures Act LOL
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34645 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:05 am to
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and that Republican President Donald Trump could use the information to further his political agenda.


Are presidents elected with an undeniable mandate... not... supposed to implement their political agenda?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16750 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:07 am to
Why have a president then. Your argument is bullshite
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16420 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:08 am to
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It’s not the President accessing these things
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and that Republican President Donald Trump could use the information to further his political agenda.
apparently you can't read
Posted by BlueTiger23
Member since Dec 2020
450 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 10:14 am to
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He’s an American citizen.


With two other citizenships. It’s also amazing how the views on citizenship change here depending on who we are talking about. He’s still foreign born when interests in other countries such as China and is access our funding systems (that also pay him). Conflict of interest

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people without security clearance have this access.


That logistically is incorrect. DOGE started on the day of inauguration (at earliest). Security clearance on the level needed to operate and examine the data of these departments takes longer than two weeks. That process is sometimes months long. Be serious bro… you’re falling for things that can easily be found. There are even local newspapers discussing it, since yall hate MSM so much. If they get said clearance, idc. That means that we’re vetted by our processes.

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DOGE serves at the behest of the President within the executive branch. The judicial doesn’t get to limit the actions of the chief executive as it relates to the function of an executive staffer as long as they don’t violate the constitution or any federal laws.


DOGE serving “at the behest” of the President doesn’t mean that they can just jump through all these loops and be able to operate how they are much less go through these things then run to Twitter about them. If the Courts feel that there is a potential violation of a law or ruling that presents substantial argument, it is within their legal authority to contest it. Won’t be the first or last time they do it. Won’t be the first or last president to have it done to them.

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