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re: SCOTUS Opinion Release Day - July 1 (Trump Immunity, NetChoice, Corner Post)

Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:36 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:36 am to
quote:

No. It’s exactly as expected.


I thought the expectation was to get the case remanded back to Chunkin to determine if J6 was an official act under the presidency?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:36 am to
And here we go!!
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:36 am to
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Immunity incoming

6-3


I really didn't expect that.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:36 am to
CNN is freaking out....must be a good ruling
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:36 am to
Oh shite!
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:36 am to
quote:

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So the Supreme Court isn't going to make that determination now. Instead, it will send the case back to the lower courts for further proceedings, although it does offer some guidance.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Smack down incoming

It's not a "smack down"

The district court has to make the decision based on this ruling.

Since they did not, the USSC can't make the call, today. The case has to go back to the district court to make the determination.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39463 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:37 am to
Boom bitches!

L
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Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Transforming the political process of impeachment into a necessary step in the enforcement of criminal law finds little support in the text of the Constitution or the structure of the Nation’s Government

Finally, hopefully this shuts that dumb argument down on here too.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:37 am to
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the President may not be prosecuted for exercising his core constitutional powers, and he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for his official acts.


Agree 100%.

1st amendment seems to fall under that category.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465525 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

I thought the expectation was to get the case remanded back to Chunkin to determine if J6 was an official act under the presidency?

Literally what happened
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:38 am to
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The indictment also contains various allegations regarding
Trump’s conduct in connection with the events of January 6 itself. The
alleged conduct largely consists of Trump’s communications in the
form of Tweets and a public address. The President possesses “extraordinary power to speak to his fellow citizens and on their behalf.

Trump v. Hawaii, 585 U. S. 667, 701. So most of a President’s public
communications are likely to fall comfortably within the outer perimeter of his official responsibilities
.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 9:40 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:38 am to
In the absence of anything damning (recordings, documentary proof, etc) that Trump was doing anything other than speaking to the folks at the rally, all of the actual evidence would indicate that he wanted the protesters to disperse and go home (per the Insurrection Act) would strip any argument saying otherwise.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35683 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:38 am to
What does the First Amendment have to do with anything?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35683 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:38 am to
quote:

thought the expectation was to get the case remanded back to Chunkin to determine if J6 was an official act under the presidency?

That’s what they did.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
24850 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:38 am to
quote:


It's not a "smack down"

The district court has to make the decision based on this ruling.

Since they did not, the USSC can't make the call, today. The case has to go back to the district court to make the determination.


Oh stop.

SCOTUS told them, you all did it wrong and did not talk to us to figure it out
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:39 am to
Merchan about to sentence Trump to 5 years in prison. It’s coming
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:39 am to
quote:

quote:

I thought the expectation was to get the case remanded back to Chunkin to determine if J6 was an official act under the presidency?


Literally what happened


Good. Happy to see that clarified.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
24850 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:39 am to
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But later in the opinion, the court does weigh in on some aspects. "Trump is ... absolutely immune from prosecution for the alleged conduct involving his discussions with Justice Department officials."
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79884 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:39 am to
The 2 charges related to obstruction of official proceeding got tossed last week.

What charges are left to judge against the "official" standard?
(and we haven't even touched the first amendment defense yet).
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